President Obama's Foreign Policy Report Card

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pla101prc

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Afghanistan / C: I thought C might be a little high given the fiasco surrounding troop deployments and strategy formulation earlier in his tenure, but recent success of Afghan presidential election proves that progress has indeed been made. And of course one must commend the prez’s courageous decision to go ahead with the bin laden operation. All of these however does not offset the extremely stupid act of announcing pullout timetable back in 2010. Another drawback here for the prez being his inability to put a leash on his military, as anyone who is informed on the Afghan stories would admit. So overall a C but this is contingent upon next couple of years.

Iraq / D: Yes it was Bush who went into Iraq and failed hard, but once you are in a war, no matter how undesirable, you need to finish strong. Obama’s failure to do that has landed the US in the worst of both worlds. I think many would give Obama a F on this one, the reason I did not is because while many have argued that pulling out might lead to chaos of Iraq, few have foreseen a disaster of this magnitude. In addition I also suspect that Obama pulled out of Iraq to appease the anti-war lot in Washington who are unhappy with the escalation in Afghanistan. As for the prez’s own explanation for why he pulled out, I think that was just a lame excuse.

Libya & Egypt / B: Obama started strong in both of these countries at the onset of their revolutions. Unfortunately he screwed up on both later on. I give him a B because the effort was worth the applause, had he been successful it would have had a profound influence on how US conducts is foreign policy, a new “Obama-doctrine”. On the other hand, it is also America’s handling of Libya that provoked Russia and contributed to the stalemate in Syria. So I would say that Obama won some and lost some on this matter.

Syria / F: No excuse for this one, Obama screwed up. He didn’t step up when he was supposed to. Putin really took Obama to school over that red line comedy. To use the language of my high school video game years, it was pure “ownage”, and a major contributing factor to the rise of ISIS.

ISIS / D: This is the story of the moment, and it has just started. So far I am not really impressed with Obama’s strategy because he doesn’t seem to have one. He set a high bar for himself…to “destroy” ISIS, this may ultimately draw him into an undesirable spiral of continuous escalation. It is too early to fail him, but I say the prez didn’t start well on this one.
Israel & Palestine / C: Maybe a lot of people think Obama failed hard on this one, I say he did just as bad as other presidents. Every secretary of state since the 90s have made Palestine a priority and no one has aced it thus far, so can you really blame Obama for not achieving anything here? In fact Obama’s report card on Palestine is exactly what most have predicted, he didn’t click with Netanyahu, he was seen as a lame-duck, Israel was basically going to just “take it” and punt the big decisions til after he is gone.

Ukraine / C: I would say while it seems that Obama should have done a lot more on Ukraine, his options weren’t actually that abundant. This is an issue that Putin will go to war for in a heartbeat, but has little implication on America’s national security. Putin has a gift for making the most out of a very bad situation, but he should have avoided this very bad situation in the first place. So overall I say Obama lost a battle but didn’t necessarily lose the war, at least he captured the opportunity and put some life back into NATO. Putin doesn’t deserve A+ on this one either, I would give him a A-.

China / C: This was really supposed to be the highlight of US foreign policy this decade. I think it is also the first time ever that the two strongest country’s bi-lateral relation is not the one grabbing the most attention. The reason here is simple, Obama is too preoccupied with everything else. For China Putin’s enterprise in Ukraine is valuable in that it diverted America’s attention and resource away from Asia, even more so than the cheap natural gas that Russia offered. America’s Asia policy is not without highlights though, it’s ostensible shift of focus invigorated some Asian partner’s to push back against China’s expansion in the South China Sea, though even that has been undermined by America’s reluctance to contribute its military prowess in Europe and the Middle East.

Edward Snowden / F: yea not much to say on this one, people will be talking about this epic fail for years to come. It also had a detrimental impact on America’s cyber security fight. I still remember them pushing hard for that stuff before the snowden revelation, didn’t hear much of that since.

Overall --- D: This administration screwed up big time on foreign policy
 

Blackstone

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Obama gets an F across the board, domestically, internationally, and metaphysically. The sole exception is his lovely family, where he gets better grades.
 

bd popeye

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Re: President Obama's Report Card

No politics allowed in this forum.. however I will allow this thread unless it gets out of hand.

My Foreign Policy Grade for Mr Obama..F-...Biggest Foreign Policy fail since Pres. Carter.
 

Brumby

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Re: President Obama's Report Card

No politics allowed in this forum.. however I will allow this thread unless it gets out of hand.

My Foreign Policy Grade for Mr Obama..F-...Biggest Foreign Policy fail since Pres. Carter.

There should be a G for exceptional performance beyond the worst expectation. Lol.
 

Blackstone

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Re: President Obama's Report Card

There should be a G for exceptional performance beyond the worst expectation. Lol.

Well, I'm conservative and Obama is liberal, so I knew our politics would be polar opposites, but I had high hopes he would be the "post racial President" and improve race relations. To my utter disgust, he made things worse! I mean he failed in the one area where you think he would get an 'A.' Very disappointing.
 
Afghanistan / C: I thought C might be a little high given the fiasco surrounding troop deployments and strategy formulation earlier in his tenure, but recent success of Afghan presidential election proves that progress has indeed been made. And of course one must commend the prez’s courageous decision to go ahead with the bin laden operation. All of these however does not offset the extremely stupid act of announcing pullout timetable back in 2010. Another drawback here for the prez being his inability to put a leash on his military, as anyone who is informed on the Afghan stories would admit. So overall a C but this is contingent upon next couple of years.

Iraq / D: Yes it was Bush who went into Iraq and failed hard, but once you are in a war, no matter how undesirable, you need to finish strong. Obama’s failure to do that has landed the US in the worst of both worlds. I think many would give Obama a F on this one, the reason I did not is because while many have argued that pulling out might lead to chaos of Iraq, few have foreseen a disaster of this magnitude. In addition I also suspect that Obama pulled out of Iraq to appease the anti-war lot in Washington who are unhappy with the escalation in Afghanistan. As for the prez’s own explanation for why he pulled out, I think that was just a lame excuse.

Libya & Egypt / B: Obama started strong in both of these countries at the onset of their revolutions. Unfortunately he screwed up on both later on. I give him a B because the effort was worth the applause, had he been successful it would have had a profound influence on how US conducts is foreign policy, a new “Obama-doctrine”. On the other hand, it is also America’s handling of Libya that provoked Russia and contributed to the stalemate in Syria. So I would say that Obama won some and lost some on this matter.

Syria / F: No excuse for this one, Obama screwed up. He didn’t step up when he was supposed to. Putin really took Obama to school over that red line comedy. To use the language of my high school video game years, it was pure “ownage”, and a major contributing factor to the rise of ISIS.

ISIS / D: This is the story of the moment, and it has just started. So far I am not really impressed with Obama’s strategy because he doesn’t seem to have one. He set a high bar for himself…to “destroy” ISIS, this may ultimately draw him into an undesirable spiral of continuous escalation. It is too early to fail him, but I say the prez didn’t start well on this one.
Israel & Palestine / C: Maybe a lot of people think Obama failed hard on this one, I say he did just as bad as other presidents. Every secretary of state since the 90s have made Palestine a priority and no one has aced it thus far, so can you really blame Obama for not achieving anything here? In fact Obama’s report card on Palestine is exactly what most have predicted, he didn’t click with Netanyahu, he was seen as a lame-duck, Israel was basically going to just “take it” and punt the big decisions til after he is gone.

Ukraine / C: I would say while it seems that Obama should have done a lot more on Ukraine, his options weren’t actually that abundant. This is an issue that Putin will go to war for in a heartbeat, but has little implication on America’s national security. Putin has a gift for making the most out of a very bad situation, but he should have avoided this very bad situation in the first place. So overall I say Obama lost a battle but didn’t necessarily lose the war, at least he captured the opportunity and put some life back into NATO. Putin doesn’t deserve A+ on this one either, I would give him a A-.

China / C: This was really supposed to be the highlight of US foreign policy this decade. I think it is also the first time ever that the two strongest country’s bi-lateral relation is not the one grabbing the most attention. The reason here is simple, Obama is too preoccupied with everything else. For China Putin’s enterprise in Ukraine is valuable in that it diverted America’s attention and resource away from Asia, even more so than the cheap natural gas that Russia offered. America’s Asia policy is not without highlights though, it’s ostensible shift of focus invigorated some Asian partner’s to push back against China’s expansion in the South China Sea, though even that has been undermined by America’s reluctance to contribute its military prowess in Europe and the Middle East.

Edward Snowden / F: yea not much to say on this one, people will be talking about this epic fail for years to come. It also had a detrimental impact on America’s cyber security fight. I still remember them pushing hard for that stuff before the snowden revelation, didn’t hear much of that since.

Overall --- D: This administration screwed up big time on foreign policy

Afghanistan, China, Egypt, Israel/Palestine - 'B', the Obama administration pursued their stated strategy of nudging here and there to maintain US advantage by channeling how the world balances itself anyways, so far all these cases have clearly worked out at minimal cost to the US. The US could try to shape these scenarios more but better results are not guaranteed while higher costs are.

Libya - 'F', the 2003 Iraq invasion severely damaged US credibility in justifying military action, the 2011 intervention in the Libyan civil war under the guise of a "no fly zone" stripped the US of all credibility in justifying military action. This was done to a target that was a weak player to begin with and worst of all primarily for the interests of the Gulf monarchies, the French, and the British rather than for US interests, and directly contrary to Italian interests. To boot, this was done to a target that was the sole redeeming result of the 2003 Iraq invasion as that event prompted Gaddafi to surrender Libya's WMDs, settle the Lockerbie bombing, and set Libya on a relatively conciliatory path. If a formerly hostile government performs all those submissive acts and still gets backstabbed at the first sign of weakness by the US when no US interests are at stake and under a blatantly false pretense, then no government that was ever hostile, unfriendly, or even just neutral, can trust the US for any sort of deal. Anyone who thought the US operated internationally on principles higher than that of a street gang's now knows how the game is really played.

Syria - 'B', given the complete lack of US credibility in justifying military action after intervening in Libya and the much higher stakes including US interests and more and bigger players involved in the Syria scenario the US administration did everything it could within the framework of nudging the world's natural balance to maintain US advantage and it has worked well in this ongoing project which currently is at the stage of confronting...

ISIS - 'B', it took long enough for the US administration to digest and act on the reality of the Gulf monarchies needing an arm twisting as well as a hand to confront their out of control proxies. But there is a LOT to digest. In addition to directly cutting ISIS down to size the US administration still has a huge PR, diplomatic, and likely even more literal war to wage to re-balance the Middle East so that the Sunni and Shiite factions are at a stalemate yet still focusing their hostilities on each other. If either side wins out over the other, their next goals will create more and bigger headaches for the US.

Ukraine, Russia - 'B', the Obama administration really amped this one up all the way to just below direct intervention. This is a clear win despite also being clearly not a total win. The Ukraine-Russia setup is now similar to the Korea-China setup prior to the Korean War. A large, critical, and right-next-door chunk of Russia's sphere of influence was turned with local hostilities spiced up and continuing to brew. The setup has been solidified for the US to keep the pressure on Russia at minimal cost via Ukraine and giving the more anti-Russian elements of Europe more voice and weight within European circles.

Edward Snowden - 'B', this was a failure of the CIA to detect a waffler within the ranks. By the time it became a public topic to be addressed by President Obama it was only about damage control. The US administration did a fine job of addressing public concerns while not letting that hogtie policy, but it could have done a better job of letting this blow over rather than to give it more exposure. It is as yet unknown whether this event will lead to improvements within the CIA.

So, overall a B- because the one F was a big one.
 
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xiabonan

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Not really that familiar with the American system but I believe that the American President's powers are really kind of limited? Since the power is split he can't be the only one taking the blame right? In a dictatorship, all outcomes are results of one man's decisions/actions, so whatever good or bad that happens, that person takes the blame or credit, but in the U.S., this is definitely not the case.

But then again, I'm not really that sure how this whole thing works. As far as I see it, he's constrained by the legacy of his predecessor, by the nature of political institutions in America, and by a changing international environment. I think these factors really need to be taken into account when assessing his performance.

On a side note though, I like how it seems to be a hobby of people of any nation, to "grade" or "assess" their leaders. The Chinese do this quite a lot on our forums as well. If I've got the time next time, and you guys are interested, and the moderators allow--maybe I can translate some for you guys to read.
 

SouthernSky

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But then again, I'm not really that sure how this whole thing works. As far as I see it, he's constrained by the legacy of his predecessor

Spot on xiabonan. It's a constant circuit of revolving doors. Only the remarkable break free and set their own agenda.
 
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xiabonan

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Spot on xiabonan. It's a constant circuit of revolving doors. Only the remarkable break free and set their own agenda.

Guess that's also why there's been like 40+ presidents but only a handful made their names and left important legacies not only to America but also to the world.
 
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