PRC's anti-rioting abilities.

sry its not week

but rommel

a training round can still kill the target if it hits the right spot

Anti-rioting suit as also not effective aginst molotov gas bombs the rioters use

Well, it's technically impossible to kill someone with a PVC bullet (those are not training bullet !!) Those bullets are not very powerful, but hurts a lot. They hurt a lot (even more than the old rubber bullet), enough to repel most rioter, but don't "kick" the target like the old rubber bullet. So except if you shoot on a baby with those thing, it won't kill.

You should read my post more carefully, I said that the suit are not design to prevent wound from molotov...

but you do know the training round its a modifyed version of the convential bullet with reduced charge Right ?

Euh... I'm confuse... training bullet ?? from where that come from ?? I don't know what's a "training" bullet... honestly, for training, we use live ammunition (the normal one)

I think that you're mistaken, non-lethal ammunition are shot in Canada by 12 gauge shotgun. Instead of putting pellets in the cartridge, we put a slug made of PVC

its called a training round

it looks likes a normal bullet but has reduced powder charge and the tip is also smaller that thing is mostly for older guns like the lee enfield and the candian copy of FN rifle (forgot name)

but they still have them in china and yes they will kill!

First of all, that not training round, from where this idea comes from ?? At least not from the military. Maybe the civilian call them training round, but that's weird. This is an anti-rioting PVC or rubber bullet. Since the army, at least in Canada and USA, don't use them for training, I don't know why you called them "training" bullet

2nd, this thing can only fit in caliber 12 gauge firearm, that mean shotgun or specialized anti-rioting weapon. Believe, I never saw an adaptor in our C1 and C2 stock for that... This is the bullet, this thing is insert in a 12 gauge standart bullet, so the entire round look like this...


3rd, I can't understand why you say that this thing can kill, it's ridiculous, it got an average speed of 100-180m/sec, very slow compared to rifle or pistol bullet,no punch, big (about 24mm diameter)


Believe me, thoses things are non-lethal...

read my post again the thing looks like a normal rifle bullet (most of times its rimed to fit older rifle)!!!!!!! only with reduce charge

and no that not fired from shoot guns but from regular army rifles and yes a smalll peaice of metal traveling at high speed willl kill you

the reason you have not heard about them is beacause they are old the canadian ross rifle and lee enfield alll have them

pS there are stilll some left over in china I have some caseing my self

Okay, if you look on the first 2 picture I posted, you can that there's a scale on the side of the bullet, the bullet is around 3 cm length and 25mm height. The entire round is about 27mm caliber and 4cm long. Thoses bullets can only fit in a 12 gauge

This thing is not rimmed, I'm a soldier, infrantry corporal, I have trained myself many times with the anti-rioting equipment, you're not gonna tell me that this thing can fit in a rifle since thoses rifles are 7.7mm (British .303)...

These bullets are NOT travelling at high speed, 100m-180m/sec is very slow compared to pistol round (450-500m/sec) and combat rifle (850m-1250m/sec).

You are mistaken maybe with something else because thoses bullets was introduced in our inventory only about in 1990

That's what a normal rifle bullet looks like
(SS109 5.56mm NATO standart combat rifle ammo)

think we are talking about different bullets

the rime is to fit enfield rifle ( they fire the .303 round) idea behind the bullet being that you can be wounded from useing it but not kill

the bullet was first made by the english before WWII other natons also copied the ideaand yes there are still left overs in china to day

Well, you have to remember that we should talk about modern capability of anti-rioting with any decent equipment... I don't think that China will still use live ammunition against rioter... And rubber bullet exist since the 50's and the CS gas grenade exist since the 60's