PRC/PLAN Laser and Rail Gun Development Thread

Hendrik_2000

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According to Henri K the test is successful
He will be the future railgun of the Chinese navy, if the tests at sea successfully end.
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A magazine illustration from Modern Ships... Take it with a large helping of salt...

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a simple question: where is it now?

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Le LST chinois doté du canon électromagnétique est revenu au chantier naval Shuangliu à Wuhan

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The Chinese LST with the electromagnetic gun came back to the Shuangliu shipyard in Wuhan

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China has produced a new type of electric motor that would meet the heavy demand from China's latest electromagnetic weapon system, which may involve electromagnetic railgun and ballistic missile technologies, said an expert.

Academy of Aerospace Solid Propulsion Technology under China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation has recently delivered a batch of newly developed brushed DC electric motors to an unnamed unit. The motors will be used in China's latest electromagnetic weapon system and are under heavy demand, reads an article published by the academy on WeChat on June 10.

The new motors can operate in special environments including in high-intensity magnetic fields and are resistant to strong blasts, according to the article.

A staff member in charge of publicity at the academy confirmed the news to the Global Times on Tuesday but refused to provide further information.

The delivery marks China's constant improvement on DC electric motors, Song Zhongping, a military expert and TV commentator, told the Global Times on Tuesday, noting the recent technological advancement was a challenging one.

The electromagnetic weapon system that needs the motors might be China's electromagnetic railgun. Other weapons that need a servo mechanism, such as ballistic missiles, may also require such motors, said Song.

The Chinese Navy will likely be the first in China to equip vehicles with an electromagnetic railgun. Type 055, China's first domestically developed 10,000-ton class missile destroyer, would be a great fit, said Song.

Photos spread on the internet since January 30 showed that a Type 072 III landing ship of the People's Liberation Army Navy was equipped with a main gun that is suspected to be an experimental electromagnetic railgun, reported Science and Technology Daily on February 5.

An electromagnetic railgun can fire projectiles via electromagnetic force at incredibly destructive velocity. It can reach farther ranges compared with standard artillery and maintain high accuracy, said Song.

However, the words "heavy demand" does not necessarily mean that China's electromagnetic railgun has entered mass production phase, said Song, noting that the heavy demand could come from anywhere since the brushed DC electric motors are widely used in weaponry.
 

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China is currently testing the world's most powerful naval gun and people with direct knowledge of a U.S. intelligence report say it will be ready for war by 2025.

Railguns use electromagnetic energy instead of gunpowder to propel rounds, and China's is capable of striking a target 124 miles away at speeds of up to 1.6 miles per second, according to the report. For perspective, a shot fired from Washington, D.C., could reach Philadelphia in under 90 seconds.

Railguns have long appeared on Russian, Iranian and U.S. military wish lists as cost-effective weapons that give navies the might of a cannon with the range of a precision-guided missile.


The rounds used in China's railgun cost between $25,000 and $50,000 each, according to the intelligence assessment. Though not an exact comparison since the weapons have different technologies, the U.S. Navy's Tomahawk cruise missile has an estimated price tag of $1.4 million each.

China's railgun was first seen in 2011 and underwent testing in 2014, according to people who spoke to CNBC on the condition of anonymity. Between 2015 and 2017 the weapon was calibrated to strike at extended ranges, increasing its lethality. By December 2017, the weapon was successfully mounted on a warship and began at-sea testing, a feat no other nation has accomplished.

The U.S. Navy's railgun, years away from being operational, remains a classified system still in development under the Office of Naval Research.

China's sprint to develop a weapon of this magnitude comes on the heels of Beijing's recent
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The railgun coupled with the new coastal defense systems represents a significant addition to China's military portfolio in one of the most contested regions of the world.
 

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China’s Electromagnetic Railgun Progress Goes into Overdrive
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The Chinese navy plans to equip an electromagnetic railgun onto a second type of surface warfare vessel, before the United States Navy puts such a weapon on one ship, according to a US intelligence report cited by CNBC last week.

In February, the People's Liberation Army-Navy became the first known navy in the world to install an electromagnetic railgun onto an amphibious assault ship. According to a US intelligence report, sections of which were leaked to CNBC last week, China is expected to install the gun onto a destroyer by 2025. This, according to Task and Purpose, would be "a major strategic coup" for Beijing.

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Railgun rounds are propelled by electromagnetic pulses instead of gunpowder and thus expected to be both cheaper to operate and more effective than existing cannons. They are also immensely powerful and destructive.

"If the PLA-N's fleets actually include any significant number of railgun-equipped ships by 2025," The War Zone said in an analysis of the American intel assessment, "it is even more likely that the era of near-total United States naval supremacy in any prospective conflict, especially in Pacific Region, will have come to a close."

Previous photos of the railgun appearing on a PLA-N ship showed the weapon mounted on the bow of a Type 072II-class landing ship (NATO designation Yuting-class), which is suited for amphibious assault warfare. Railguns have long been high on the wish lists of navies around the world, including those of Iran, Russia, and the United States, CNBC noted.
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have both tested their own railguns, but not on ships.

"By actually putting the weapon on the ship, China succeeded where the US Navy had failed for over a decade," Business Insider reported June 28.

According to the research arm of the US Navy, the Office of Naval Research, projectiles launched from electromagnetic guns can achieve a velocity of 4,500 miles per hour. The amount of kinetic force created by the armature within the gun, which produces electric current when it turns in a magnetic field, means that the rounds are so powerful they don't need any auxiliary explosives to inflict severe damage upon strike targets.

Looking at a picture of a projectile fired from a railgun, one might assume it contains flammable explosives. In reality, the metal rounds simply cut through air so fast they create incredible friction, hence the fireball.

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Record-setting firing of an electromagnetic railgun (EMRG). (File)
The force of a projectile launched by a railgun is complemented by the gun's ability to hit targets beyond visual range. China's railgun is capable of making dust out of targets nearly 125 miles out, CNBC noted, which translates to being able to shoot a target in Philadelphia from Washington, DC, in 90 seconds, given the incredible speeds at which the projectile travels.

Since 2005, the US has dropped some $500 million developing the electromagnetic railgun. Developers have tested the weapon on firm ground and gotten it to work, but the US Navy appears to be postponing or abandoning future railgun development. Once seen as a game changer in navy surface warfare scenarios, the railgun may not be seen on a US Navy vessel for quite a while.

The Strategic Capabilities Office within the Pentagon is stifling further progress of the ONR's railgun in favor of alternatives they feel are more cost effective: the hypervelocity projectile, or HVP, and solid-state lasers.

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The HVP is similar to the electromagnetic railgun in that projectiles travel very fast, (but not as fast as the railgun-fired projectile) but could be fired from the Mark 45 cannons already aboard surface warships, unlike railgun technology.

"HVP takes the projectile technology from the railgun program and adapts it to fire from existing US Navy 5-inch guns. HVP doesn't get the same speed and distance railguns do — at Mach 3 they travel at about half the speed and at about 30 miles they only travel a third of the range — but they're still a considerable improvement over existing 5-inch shells," Popular Mechanics reported December 5.

In short, the Strategic Capabilities Office determined last December that HVPs will result in "a faster transition" to next generation weaponry than the railgun, a spokesman told Task and Purpose at the time.

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"We thought railguns were something we were really going to go after, but it turns out that powder guns firing the same hypervelocity projectiles gets you almost as much as you would get out of the electromagnetic railgun, but it's something we can do much faster," Deputy Secretary of Defense Robert Work told Congress in May 2017.

"The railgun concept has some very tricky problems China may not overcome, but even if China doesn't, completing the project would embarrass the US," Business Insider warned Thursday.
 

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There's also the fact that the only platform in the USN take could conceivably take a railgun is the Zumwalt DDG, and since there's only three of them, spending the couple billion right now just to reequip those three warships is out of the question (will probably have to wait for the Arleigh Burke/Ticonderoga successor).

While according to HenriK, the upper limits of the installed electrical generating capacity of the current Type 055 could be in the 30-40 megawatt range (IIRC), which theoretically could take the PLAN railgun. And then there's the IEPS future Type 055.
 
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