Potential backfire from Google Ban

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manqiangrexue said:
Probably because most people don't do research so when they read the headlines, they just thought everything would stop working on Huawei phones. Most people aren't that smart. After a few months and they learn that everyone's Huawei is still working just fine, they'll realize it's not that big a deal.
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So, ok, let me put it this way,
One would rather have google than without, but if one can't have it, its not the end of the world, and the phones will still work fine, except for a few relatively useless apps we never use anyway.
Have i got this summed up right?
 
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Gatekeeper said:
So, ok, let me put it this way,
One would rather have google than without, but if one can't have it, its not the end of the world, and the phones will still work fine, except for a few relatively useless apps we never use anyway.
Have i got this summed up right?
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Absolutely but it depends on what part of the world you're in. Some parts are really used to Google so any impact is big on them; some are ok with a good substitute and others don't use Google much at all so this means nothing to them. It will affect different markets differently but if HongMeng can really run Android Apps faster and create a playstore just like Google, the overall effect should be minimal. It really helps that public sentiment is that the US is the aggressor instigating this problem and Huawei is being a fantastic defender.
 
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Great, thanks guys.

That's why i like coming here, you learn something new everyday.

Now if Huawai is willing to maintain it, whats the issue going forward?

And also, from i understand then, this ban doesn't affect phones bought prior to the ban, so only affects phones going forward, and the affect is minimal if Huawai is willing to maintain it.

So it should affect the desirability of Huawai phones that much. So why I'm reading that consumers are worry and started to affect sales and stock prices then?

Anyone explain?
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The biggest hurdle is Google Play.

Android, the OS, is open source, but apps like Google Play, Google Map, Google Whatever, are proprietary. The most significant issue is that Google Play is the app market. This is how users buy/install apps and developers sell their apps.

Therefore, a device that doesn't have Google Play is going to need a good way for users to get apps, or it would be worthless.

One possibility is for Huawei to create its own App Market, then ask all popular app developers to clone their apps and put them on Huawei's market. Of course, if that developer is American, we'd run into the same Trump problem, but let's assume for now that this isn't an issue.

Ideally, this would be relatively easy and painless to do, and most developers would be willing to jump on board. The problem is when new Android versions come out, and the dev needs to update their app. Now is where problems happen: since Huawei's OS is a fork, by now it will be different from the new Android version. Huawei can *try* to keep it compatible, but this would be a two-way process requiring coordination with the app developer: every single one of them! For example, if an app needs access to location data, then Huawei needs to know how that app is getting the location data in order to keep their OS compatible. Inevitably, this will result in many apps breaking and needing to be fixed individually by the app developers themselves. Then it would be a toss up on whether those developers would actually do so.

For existing Huawei phones, this would not be an issue since they already have Google Play.
 
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TerraN_EmpirE said:
Another brick in the Cyber Great Wall
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What is your opinion of the other paragraph in my post just below the one you quoted? Here I repost it.
However, under certain circumstance Huawei can choose to use Android on their phones sold in Europe as the customers there wish. Huawei should also engage Google if climate becomes better in the future only for commercial reasons.
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For people who is afraid of their Huawei phone being cut off from Google service, here is an alternative to "Google Play Store" from Portugal
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, just one example of many (including Europe) may be happy for a new opportunities.

Huawei would be smart to support, cooperate or even invest in these Google competitors in Europe. EU courts huge fine on Google and Google's retaliatory extra charge on European Android phones are certainly a push for decoupling Google.
 
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In fact, if you want a Huawei phone for its great hardware and price point, but don't want to lose access to Google, now would be the best time to one!
 
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"However, the other side of the coin is not bad. "The move gives global smartphone vendors a warning that they must have alternatives to the Android operating system, which may threaten Google's dominance in the area," said Wang."
etc. inside this interesting
Opinion 20:14, 21-May-2019
U.S. has no more tools to use in trade war against China
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solarz said:
The biggest hurdle is Google Play.

Android, the OS, is open source, but apps like Google Play, Google Map, Google Whatever, are proprietary. The most significant issue is that Google Play is the app market. This is how users buy/install apps and developers sell their apps.

Therefore, a device that doesn't have Google Play is going to need a good way for users to get apps, or it would be worthless.

One possibility is for Huawei to create its own App Market, then ask all popular app developers to clone their apps and put them on Huawei's market. Of course, if that developer is American, we'd run into the same Trump problem, but let's assume for now that this isn't an issue.

Ideally, this would be relatively easy and painless to do, and most developers would be willing to jump on board. The problem is when new Android versions come out, and the dev needs to update their app. Now is where problems happen: since Huawei's OS is a fork, by now it will be different from the new Android version. Huawei can *try* to keep it compatible, but this would be a two-way process requiring coordination with the app developer: every single one of them! For example, if an app needs access to location data, then Huawei needs to know how that app is getting the location data in order to keep their OS compatible. Inevitably, this will result in many apps breaking and needing to be fixed individually by the app developers themselves. Then it would be a toss up on whether those developers would actually do so.

For existing Huawei phones, this would not be an issue since they already have Google Play.
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That was last year in Portugal. And I have found YouTube in Aptoide store, it means in whole EU 3rd party Android app store can offer Google's app to any phone.
 
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