PLA's Body Armor

PiSigma said:

back in the day, ie ww1/2 , body armor is still just a piece of metal plate, kinda like medieval plate mail, except it only covers chest area. now it's a lot more complex with kevlar. most countries in the world can't afford body armor. even the US army can only give armor to front line troops, in fact when US troops went to iraq, some front line troops don't have armor, they had to buy their own. which is about 1000 dollars to buy in US. third world countries can't afford to give an extra 1000 dollars to their troops, when they have huge populations, and is cheaper to train a new one. for canada, because we don't spend any money on R&D, and don't buy much new heavy equipment, so we just spend it all on training and safety stuff for soldiers. so by percentage, we actually have more of our army in body armor than US does.

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wow, 1000$ ??? It's a little weird, it cost 540 CDN $ to buy a tactical level III CRISAT (kevlar + titanium) vest in canada on civilian market, why it would cost more for military that got better price than the civilian ?? (For exemple, the Beretta M9 cost 175 US to buy for the US Army and 350 to replace, but the civilian got to buy it at a minimun of 550 on legal market)

Well, the WWI vest was able to block a 7,92mm Mauser round, test prove that you can even put 250lb on the vest without causing respiratory problem to the soldier... The US have sufficient body armor, but that mean vest and flak jacket, some of the US unit are issued with flak jacket and the rest with vest, but we all know, flak jacket don't block bullets...

PiSigma said:

because generals don't care what happens to the soldiers fighting the war, they just want cool toys to show off, they don't care if 18 or 19 year old kid gets killed in iraq, the generals are sitting in their comfy chairs in washington. did you know a lot of the american troops that was in iraq didn't have bullet proof vests, because the army ran out, so they had to get family members to dish out money to buy it in the US and send it to them. and only after weeks did the army give the soldier's family for the money they paid for the vests, since it is army policy to have all front line soldiers have vests.

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Well, depend what general you are talking about... the divisional and corps commander are always on the field with their soldiers, only the big staff general and general of army army will stay in Washington. Staff don't care about soldier, but field general, yes, they care, it's very rare to see a field general that don't care about the life of his men under his command directly...

BTW, I hope you guys all know differences between flak jacket and ballistic protection vest ???

i dont thinnk flak jakets are quite pratical anymore. they were only used by bombadeers and and paratroops in ww2 to protect agaisnt the 88 flak. now they just shoot a missle.

a ballistics vests is a bulllet stopper. the romans actually had the first, for there plates could block a shot from their own scorpions.

rommel, it's not the field generals and division commander that decide who gets vests, it's the staff sitting in their offices in washington that decides who gets what.

MIGleader said:

i dont thinnk flak jakets are quite pratical anymore. they were only used by bombadeers and and paratroops in ww2 to protect agaisnt the 88 flak. now they just shoot a missle.

a ballistics vests is a bulllet stopper. the romans actually had the first, for there plates could block a shot from their own scorpions.

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DAMN! If it could block a scropion shot, then it would easily block Chinese crossbow bolts. Was this armor equipped to all troops or only the most elite?

The most famous Chinese body armor manufactuer is called "Guardian God" "护神". Their products are used by elite force in PLA rank.



It's biggest customers are Iseral, new iraq Government and strangely enough US/UK army. The product is relatively cheap and offers very good protection.

价格比其他国家便宜　以色列是最大买家　驻伊美英军队频购买　穿中国制造防弹衣　11名英士兵曾死里逃生——

　　法制晚报消息：据报道，全世界只有3个国家能够从原料研发到制作一条龙生产防弹衣，分别是荷兰、美国和中国。本报记者采访了生产防弹衣的中国公司，公司总经理告诉记者：“驻伊美英军队士兵所穿的防弹衣都是‘中国制造’。â€




　　一条龙做防弹衣包括中国就三家

　　据报道，1997年中国人民解放军开始构想开发自己的防弹衣，并找到了当时中国化纤界的一位专家进行研发。历经7年，投入几千万的研发资金，该专家成立的公司终于掌握防弹衣技术，并通过了国际通行的防弹衣检测标准。

　　现在该公司生产的防弹衣已经过多次实战考验，在中国拥有知识产权保护，在国内基本上处于技术垄断地位。这位专家现任该公司总经理，他自豪地对本报记者说：“防弹衣从原料研发到生产制作一条龙，全国只有我们一家！全世界加上美国、荷兰也不过3家！â€

　　以色列、伊新政府防弹衣最大买家

　　据记者了解，该公司最大的客户是以色列和伊拉克新政府。以色列自2002年至今已经订购了2万件防弹衣，而伊拉克新政府自成立至今也已订购了2万件防弹衣和1万顶头盔。

　　而在2002年，美国就通过互联网获知该中国公司，开始向其订购防弹板、防弹纤维布等原材料（防弹衣纤维原料是高科技研发产品，该公司的产品质量处于世界先进水平，但市场价格比国际同类产品低），数量不大，主要用于裁制驻伊美军的防弹衣装备。

　　与此同时，英国也向该公司订购了少量的防弹衣及陶瓷插板，作为驻伊英军的防弹装备。

　　中国防弹衣救下11英军士兵性命

　　据报道，去年9月份，英国驻伊拉克部队的12名士兵在伊遭到反美武装袭击，在以少敌多的情况下，英军士兵以一人死亡的微小代价奇迹般地冲出了包围。死里逃生的英军士兵身上的防弹衣被密集的子弹打得像蜂窝，中弹最多的一名士兵身上中了12枪，但没有一件防弹衣被子弹击穿，死亡的那名士兵是因为被流弹击中了无防护的脑部。

　　“防弹衣救了我们的命！â€消息传到英国，该中国公司的英国销售商欣喜若狂地打来了报喜电话，因为当时英军士兵身上穿的防弹衣全部是该公司生产的。中国的防弹衣一举成名，从此国际订单不断，销售量飙升。新闻链接中国制造防弹衣销往近30个国家

　　该中国公司于2000年生产出第一批防弹衣，现在每年生产防弹衣20万件，这与一支中型武装部队的装备数量相等。

　　据了解，该公司的产品出口地以伊拉克、以色列、科威特等中东国家为主，另外还有美国、英国、意大利、韩国、玻利维亚、尼日利亚、马来西亚、印度尼西亚等近30个国家。原料出口地也有五六个国家。

　　防弹衣材质上区分

　　软体防弹衣：采用纺纶及超高分子量聚乙烯纤维材料为主要材料制成

　　硬体防弹衣：需要时，在软体防弹衣上插入高等级复合陶瓷防弹板

　　用途上区分

　　通用步兵作战防弹衣

　　特种部队防弹衣

　　类型上区分

　　半身防弹衣

　　全身防弹衣

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Are you saying that the US buys its body armor from China? TYTE!!!!!!!!!!

Why would we buy Chinese body armor if the Interceptor is already good enough?

BrotherofSnake said:

Why would we buy Chinese body armor if the Interceptor is already good enough?

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From lazzydiggers post we could see that Interceptor is obviously not good enough.

It can stop 7.62mm rounds fired from AK's and SVD's.