PLAN's answer to ROCNs Kidd purchase....

I believe Taiwan will use the KIDDs as a sort of mobile sea base SAM to deny the PLAAF air superioriy over the straights. Major anti shipping work will be done by the Airforce.

you'll need a bit more than 56 SM-2s to do that. By parking in the strait, you bring yourself into the range of shore anti ship batteries, and we all know how big these things are.

Hmm... I suppose the idea behind the Kidd's could be to achieve better ASW, the air force is able to attack surface units and enemy aircrafts, what's left is a true blue water ASW platform with longer staying power than an Orion.

MIGleader said:

the airforce will be busy with the plaaf, the kidds will be busy with kilos and yuans. the chinese transport slip through.

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Its not that simple. I don't think the PLA general would risk slow moving and vulnerable transport in a hot environment. Plus, you forgot about the land base anti-ship missiles that Taiwan has.

enough to gain air parity and escorting transports? We are not just talking about OpFor fighters here, we have OpFor ground based AD systems. Just how many wild weasel capable aircrafts can actually get across a SAM/figher shield and suppress/destroy enemy ground assets.

IDonT said:

I believe Taiwan will use the KIDDs as a sort of mobile sea base SAM to deny the PLAAF air superioriy over the straights. Major anti shipping work will be done by the Airforce.

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a concentrated attack of YJ-83 AShMs by 3 regiments of JH-7A should be enough to take them down. I really doubt KIDD alone can deny PLAAF air superiority.

tphuang said:

a concentrated attack of YJ-83 AShMs by 3 regiments of JH-7A should be enough to take them down. I really doubt KIDD alone can deny PLAAF air superiority.

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I have the same doubts tphuang. PLAAF has too many assets. But I don't believe these Kidds are meant to gain air superiority. Rather they are intended to bolster Taiwans ASW capabilities and to disrupt PLAAF air operations and PLAN's naval deployments. How successful they would be is up for analysis. I myself can see that China can throw alot of weaponry their way, and these Kidds wouldn't likely survive for very long. I think the hope is that they could survive and disrupt long enough, so Taiwan's allies could have time to come to help. Not only that, but they probably hope to put parts of PLAN's invasion scenario in doubt. China itself doesn't know how Taiwan intends to use these new naval ships.

Ok Miggy now i have to intervene...instead of making these oneliners one per minute, perhaps you should make single reply whit more leght and most of all contest...as you are aware a sort of martial law is decleared and under martial law anything can happen...get my point? Also you should read the annouchment on top of every forum and act as it is said in there...(no harm of reading the previous one's when you are up there...exspecially those about oneliner posts)

Gollevainen said:

Ok Miggy now i have to intervene...instead of making these oneliners one per minute, perhaps you should make single reply whit more leght and most of all contest...as you are aware a sort of martial law is decleared and under martial law anything can happen...get my point? Also you should read the annouchment on top of every forum and act as it is said in there...(no harm of reading the previous one's when you are up there...exspecially those about oneliner posts)

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ok, after peaceful reunion, the plan gets 4 kidd class destroyers. and a few dozen f-16s. so wht should it do with them? sell them? use them?

back on topic...
the point is, what are the weaknesses of a kidd? it may have good asw abilities to detect, but nothing to kill. a a yuan could ambush it...

MIGleader said:

ok, after peaceful reunion, the plan gets 4 kidd class destroyers. and a few dozen f-16s. so wht should it do with them? sell them? use them?

back on topic...
the point is, what are the weaknesses of a kidd? it may have good asw abilities to detect, but nothing to kill. a a yuan could ambush it...

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take the tech and sell the Kidd to their original buyer -> IRAN!!!
take the F-16 tech and give it to -> PAKISTAN!!!
well how long do you think the KIDD can buy time? PLAN will probably send in Kilos or Yuans first to paint the targets and follow them, then attack them once the invasion starts