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Jeff Head

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kibitz = to watch other people and make unwanted comments about what they are doing
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Commentary: America the Kibitzer on South China Sea
English.news.cn 2015-03-21 14:10:24

BEIJING, March 21 (Xinhua) -- Uncle Sam has long been in the grip of many addictions, such as muscle-flexing, preaching and borrowing, but there has turned out to be one more: kibitzing.

The latest symptom of the obsession with unwanted counseling emerged into plain sight earlier this week, when Robert Thomas, commander of the U.S. Navy Seventh Fleet, whose country is not a party in the
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disputes, advised
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countries to form a combined maritime force for joint South China Sea patrols and even called for more
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ese involvement.

It is high time that Uncle Sam stop making irresponsible remarks and retract his meddlesome hands, so as to allow the parties directly involved in the South China Sea disputes to proceed in their own peaceful way.
The US is a part of several Asian alliances with nations that do have interests in the SCS, some of them ASEAN members...so the US giving advise to said nations is not unusual, and however some may want to characterize it, also not necessarily unwanted.

The key is what the US allies and partners think of it.

It is clear that since the advise is somewhat counter to the PRC position, that the PRC will view is as unwanted.
 

joshuatree

Captain
Looks like the runway construction advanced a little more. The "lagoon" looks more defined now. Question is, what is the purpose of that lagoon? A reservoir? But why would one need a reservoir of seawater, brackish water? If it's meant for freshwater, wouldn't it make more sense to pump the water out and finish the reservoir construction first? And it's rather large, almost the same size as the harbor. Or could this be a submarine pen under construction? I also thought maybe aquaculture but that seems wierd to devote that much effort when this island is clearly going to be a major base instead of a commercial harbor.

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Runway construction started?

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Lethe

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Could be I am just out of the loop, but this is the first occasion I have heard China's land reclamation activities in SCS described as building a "Great Wall of Sand" -- a rather amusing characterisation I thought.

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Jeff Head

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More like a great chain (wall) of islands.

The PRC is being very wise about this immense undertaking. They are simpley vastly improving their current holdings. not having to take a thing from anybody...yet exerting controlling influence in the area in question over time as they increase the size (through reclamation) and capabilities of what they already have,

The only way to counter it is for others to similarly embark on such immense operations and improve their own. But no one who owns those other islands/reefs/etc. has the capability to do so...and the potentially aligned nations with them are not willing to go to that type of outlay and expense.

Realistically only the US, or some alliance/combination of nations like Japan/Australia/India would be capable...but they do not have the holdings in the SCS and are unwilling to go to that type of effort.
 

Blackstone

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Realistically only the US, or some alliance/combination of nations like Japan/Australia/India would be capable...but they do not have the holdings in the SCS and are unwilling to go to that type of effort.
Agreed on Japan. India doesn't have the money. You give Australia too much credit, I doubt they have the capability to drag that much resources thousands of miles to the SCS.
 

antiterror13

Brigadier
I agreed with you, only Japan and perhaps Korea obviously apart from the US. I doubt India has the money and capability. Australia ... I doubt it, no money and capability and has no interest in the area
 
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