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tphuang

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Re: PLAN Pictures Thread 4

new pictures from 071 I believe
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planeman

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new pictures from 071 I believe
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There's something wrong if that's 071; there's no dock at the back!

The angled hull sides make it a dead cert at it's a naval vessel. And it looks too big for a destroyer.

Ok speculation: Light aircraft carrier similar HMS Ocean or Principe De Asturias without the skijump.
 

planeman

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More recent picture shows superstructure with mast fitted. Doesn't look like an LSD to me. More likely a destroyer or frigate.
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More recent picture shows superstructure with mast fitted. Doesn't look like an LSD to me. More likely a destroyer or frigate.
[qimg]http://img419.imageshack.us/img419/5407/t71il0.jpg[/qimg]

Thats the 054A :p
 

Jeff Head

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There's something wrong if that's 071; there's no dock at the back!

The angled hull sides make it a dead cert at it's a naval vessel. And it looks too big for a destroyer.

Ok speculation: Light aircraft carrier similar HMS Ocean or Principe De Asturias without the skijump.
From this angle it is difficult to be for sure that there is no well deck at the back. Too big for a DDG perhaps, but also too small for a carrier IMHO.

I am waiting to see what the superstructure looks like to make more of a determination...but it is a large vessel, and does have a military look about it. We shall see, it is coming along nicely whatever it is.
 
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planeman

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From this angle it is difficult to be for sure that there is no well dock at the back. Too big for a DDG perhaps, but also too small for a carrier IMHO.

I am waiting to see what the superstructure looks like to make more of a determination...but it is a large vessel, and does have a military look about it. We shall see, it is coming along nicely whatever it is.
I disagree (very amicably BTW, lol). The illustration below tries to explain what I mean:
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The Top image is as per the photos. It is clear that the deck goes right across at the back so if there is a dock, it must be below this deck level.
The middle picture puts the deck level constructed into context withh the bow height. This suggests that it is not the uppermost deck. Finally an illustration of what I'd expect to see if it was a LSD.

It seems illogical that they would construct a LSD with a dock that is not tall enough to accomodate large air-cushion vehicles such as those recentky imported from Russia. This picture of a model shows what I mean; note how the dock has maximum headroom and the ceiling of the dock is at the same deck level as the bow:
[qimg]http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2258/071100706crl7.jpg[/qimg]
 
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planeman

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Thats the 054A :p

Maybe, but look at the mast and compare it to the mast in the main pictures. Scale can be decieving in pictures, large destroyers like the Type-45 (UK) often look much larger than they are in photos (to me at least).
 

Jeff Head

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I disagree (very amicably BTW, lol). The illustration below tries to explain what I mean:
No problem with a difference of opinion.

My point is simply that there could be a well deck back there. It does not have to extend up through the main deck, nor should it necessarily do so, to accomodate air cushioned or other landing vehicles. We will know better when we see a picture of the aft section of this vessel.

But, in fact, most of the larger amphibs with well decks do not have it extend through the main deck at all. For example, this picture of the new French Mistral makes that point:

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bd popeye

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I disagree (very amicably BTW, lol). The illustration below tries to explain what I mean:
The Top image is as per the photos. It is clear that the deck goes right across at the back so if there is a dock, it must be below this deck level.
The middle picture puts the deck level constructed into context withh the bow height. This suggests that it is not the uppermost deck. Finally an illustration of what I'd expect to see if it was a LSD.

It seems illogical that they would construct a LSD with a dock that is not tall enough to accomodate large air-cushion vehicles such as those recentky imported from Russia. This picture of a model shows what I mean; note how the dock has maximum headroom and the ceiling of the dock is at the same deck level as the bow:

I understand what you are trying to point out Planeman. But I have to say until we see the superstructure of that ship it could be anything as I have pointed out somewhere in this forum.

As for their being a well deck large enough to hold a Zubr this is what I posted in the Zubr thread.

http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/showthread.php?t=1322

I think you mean LPD. Personally I think the Zubrs are too large for storage in a well deck. Those things are huge. 184 feet long. Probally 18-20 feet high. You might get one in the well deck...Russia built only 10 Zubr's.. And has built two since 1994. That in 2000 for the Hellenic Navy(Greece)

Has the PLAN actually purchased or developed an air cushion landing craft like the Zubrs but a smaller version for the 071? Any ideas???:confused: I don't think so.
 
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