Indeed.
Great view of the Sonar buoy dispensers and the radar..
Now if there were just a couple of ASW torpedoes strapped on her, it would be absolutely complete.
PLAN Naval Helicopter & ASW Capability II
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Great view of the Sonar buoy dispensers and the radar..
Now if there were just a couple of ASW torpedoes strapped on her, it would be absolutely complete.
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
A nice helo
I would like to see 4 x such helos on the carrier
I would like to see 4 x such helos on the carrier
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
I think this is a picture from the recent naval exercise with Pakistani Navy.
I post this because this seems to be the first picture depicting helipad deck crew of a surface combatant with comprehensive head gear (helmet, goggles, ear protection), whereas previous pictures all seem to depict them without helmet and ear protection at least.
I think this shows some of the more basic equipment taken granted by navies with higher funding-per-personnel is finally filtering down to standard Chinese navy personnel.
This isn't to say the Chinese Navy necessarily were cutting corners before or currently in major ways, but some basic equipment previously possibly deemed "unessential" are probably slowly percolating through the forces due to greater funding-per-personnel.
One thing that will be keenly watched for is the wearing of flash gear by Chinese Navy sailors. We've seen them with gas masks during training before even on older second line surface combatants before, which is encouraging, but flash gear would help even more.
I post this because this seems to be the first picture depicting helipad deck crew of a surface combatant with comprehensive head gear (helmet, goggles, ear protection), whereas previous pictures all seem to depict them without helmet and ear protection at least.
I think this shows some of the more basic equipment taken granted by navies with higher funding-per-personnel is finally filtering down to standard Chinese navy personnel.
This isn't to say the Chinese Navy necessarily were cutting corners before or currently in major ways, but some basic equipment previously possibly deemed "unessential" are probably slowly percolating through the forces due to greater funding-per-personnel.
One thing that will be keenly watched for is the wearing of flash gear by Chinese Navy sailors. We've seen them with gas masks during training before even on older second line surface combatants before, which is encouraging, but flash gear would help even more.
Well, I have seen it both ways in the past...and that is what is perplexing.
For example, in a SCS Exercise in 2013, we saw this:
While in a picture from 2014, we saw this:
In May 2014, at a stop in India, we saw a crew strapping down its helo like this:
But then in September 2014, on another vessel...we see this:
I do note that the two pictures seen here with no gear, though at different times, were both for helo 9224.
I hope we see some continuity and standard procedures fro flight deck crews going forward. Maybe they haven't had all of the equipment available. Maybe different commanders have discretion...I just do not know.
But there has been a big difference from one crew/vessel to another, even in the last three years.
Might they take off the head gear when the engines stop running? That would mean that gear is not sufficiently comfortable.
vesicles
Colonel
Yep, I also noticed that they only had head gear on when the blades were spinning. They might have decided that protection gear was not necessary if the blades stop spinning. I don't think anyone likes to have those head gear on. No matter how advanced the design is, it is still uncomfortable... If you notice those NFL players, the first thing they do when they get to the side line is to take off their helmets.
Well, if the equipment is too uncomfortable to wear...then that is a basic design issue and I do not believe that would be the case for PLAN. I do not know...but I would hope that they had procured gear, or that they would enforce regulations accordingly.
I suspect that there is either some discretion for the commander of the crews, or that it is simply not standard operating procedure at this point..
On US decks, that standard procedure came into being through the school of hard experience.
There are all kinds of hazards, and general the gear not onply protects, but enables communication on the noisy deck.
Whether the props are turning or not, they wear the protective equipment. Frigate, LPD, LHD or carrier. Standard operations for their protection and ability to communicate is to wear the gear, even when simply tying down the helos or aircraft..
I suspect that there is either some discretion for the commander of the crews, or that it is simply not standard operating procedure at this point..
On US decks, that standard procedure came into being through the school of hard experience.
There are all kinds of hazards, and general the gear not onply protects, but enables communication on the noisy deck.
Whether the props are turning or not, they wear the protective equipment. Frigate, LPD, LHD or carrier. Standard operations for their protection and ability to communicate is to wear the gear, even when simply tying down the helos or aircraft..
The USN has NATOPS(Naval Air Training and Operating Procedures Standardization) procedures that require flight deck gear to be worn at all times on a active flight deck. If engines & rotors are turning, aircraft moving and launching flight deck gear must be worn. It does not matter if it is uncomfortable or not you'd better be wearing your gear... period!!...and trust me based on my first hand experience....>>> Flight deck helmets are uncomfortable.