PLAN Current Vessel Inventory Thread

[jkliz]

When did the 4th LPD get commissioned?

 

[Jeff Head]

When did the 4th LPD get commissioned?

Oops...it is not commissioned yet. I will fix and show the vessels only in service, but also add others that have been launched or are building.

 

[schlieffen]

there is little reason to retire ships before their hulls and major subsystems (like propulsion) can't take it anymore. Which means we'll be seeing 053 class for some time, save for a possible garage sale to other agencies and countries. six 053h1g, comissioned mid 90s, are likely to remain is service by 2025 or so, if there's no sale to other users. Same with four 053h2g. ten 053h3, comissioned in late 90s so mid 2000s will likely serve to 2030, perhaps 2035.

Actually there are very good seasons to dump the old ships: running cost and manning difficulty. Dirt-cheap conscripts and low-paid young commissioned officers are things of the past.

Labour cost in China more than doubled in the last 15 years, and salaries of service men and women grew faster than civilians. As China drafts less than 10% of suitable young men every year, the system has long been essentially voluntary. Since last year, the proportion of new conscripts with college qualification was raised to 40%, which created formidable difficulty for the conscription offices. With a college degree, conscripts are offered a compensation of more than 80k (13k USD) after completing two years service, and in metropolitan Beijing that amount is 170k ($28k). Very considerable rewards and privileges are also offers to those solders and NCOs possessing desirable merits to sign up for longer services. Despite this, all services are in permanent shortage of skilled hands.

With the manning of a low-readiness 053, one can probably run more than one 056 in wartime complement. Even mothballed to reserve, some degree of maintenance is still needed, and aged systems are generally more expensive to maintain and even more expensive to reactivate.

If you've been on a 053H2G, you'll see many systems are (despite been reasonably well-maintained) really aging. I'll be surprised if they were kept beyond 2020.

 

[joshuatree]

With the manning of a low-readiness 053, one can probably run more than one 056 in wartime complement. Even mothballed to reserve, some degree of maintenance is still needed, and aged systems are generally more expensive to maintain and even more expensive to reactivate.

If you've been on a 053H2G, you'll see many systems are (despite been reasonably well-maintained) really aging. I'll be surprised if they were kept beyond 2020.

I thought the 056s were meant to replace the 037s, 1:1, that I don't know.

As for 053H2G, I remember reading they will be refurbed and leased to Pakistan.

 

[FORBIN]

Updated (June 2015):

Corvettes : 120
056 : 22 (3 more launched, 2 more building)
037 II : 6
037 IG : 24
037/IS : about 68
QUOTE]

Found on CDF

Hainan: 88 x 037 (at least 17 retired): 259, 267-270, 278-283, 295-298, 601-610, 615-617, 618-620 (ret), 621-626, 627 (ret), 628-630, 639-642 (ret), 643-649, 650 (ret), 664-665 (ret), 666-673, 674-676 (ret), 677-678, 679 (ret), 681-683, 684 (ret), 685, 686 (ret), 687, 689, 692, 700-701, 703,720, HJ-1, BH-409, J125, J303, J505

Haiqing: 22 x 037 IS: 611-614, 631 (ret), 632-635, 710-713, 743-744, 761-763, 786-789
Haijiu: 4 x 037 I: 688, 693, 694, 697

 

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[FORBIN]

Found on CDF

Hainan: 88 x 037 (at least 17 retired): 259, 267-270, 278-283, 295-298, 601-610, 615-617, 618-620 (ret), 621-626, 627 (ret), 628-630, 639-642 (ret), 643-649, 650 (ret), 664-665 (ret), 666-673, 674-676 (ret), 677-678, 679 (ret), 681-683, 684 (ret), 685, 686 (ret), 687, 689, 692, 700-701, 703,720, HJ-1, BH-409, J125, J303, J505

Haiqing: 22 x 037 IS: 611-614, 631 (ret), 632-635, 710-713, 743-744, 761-763, 786-789
Haijiu: 4 x 037 I: 688, 693, 694, 697

Update

Hainan: 88 x 037 (at least 17 retired): 259, 267-270, 278-283, 295-298, 601-610, 615-617, 618-620 (ret), 621-626, 627 (ret), 628-630, 639-642 (ret), 643-649, 650 (ret), 664-665 (ret), 666-673, 674-676 (ret), 677-678, 679 (ret), 681-683, 684 (ret), 685, 686 (ret), 687, 689, 692, 700-701, 703,720, HJ-1, BH-409, J125, J303, J505

Hainan (JZ): 27 x 037 JZ: 690-691 (Myanmar?), 695-696, 699, 702, 704-709, 721-732, 740-742
728 & 729 retired

Haijiu: 4 x 037 I: 688, 693, 694, 697

Houjian: 6 x 037 II: 770-775

Houxin: 26 x 037 IG: 651-656, 715-719, 751-760, 764-768

Haiqing: 22 x 037 IS: 611-614, 631 (ret), 632-635, 710-713, 743-744, 761-763, 786-789
710 & 711 commissioned in Tanzania Navy

 

[Jeff Head]

With the latest news/forecasts of the Type 052D and Type 054A, I can easily believe that the total build of the Type 052D will be eighteen vessels. If we add that to the news that the PLAN is going to build a total of 32 Type 054As from this same source, then the PLANs inventory of modern DDGs and FFGS becomes:

2 x Type 052 (Being upgraded)
1 x Type 051B (Being upgraded)
2 x Type 052B
4 x Sov
2 x Type 051C
6 x Type 052C
18 x Type 052D
Total = 35 Modern DDGs

2 x Type 054
32 x Type 054A
Total = 34 Modern FFG

18 Type 052Ds and 6 Type 052Cs, coupled with the Type 054As makes for a very strong, capable modern force for the PLAN, particularly in the Western Pacific.

 

[FORBIN]

Jeff for 054/A OK 18 now + 2 very soon + 14 Jiangwei to replaced = 34
Remains also 17 Jianghu replaced by 056 maybe or others ?

But for DDG what do you mean ? if they get 18 052D others especially Sovremenny can be retired.
Actually 25.

 

[Jeff Head]

But for DDG what do you mean ? if they get 18 052D others especially Sovremenny can be retired.
Actually 25.

I do not believe they will retire any of the Sovs or the 051B or two 052s anytime soon.

They are either now doing, or recently completed the midlife upgrade on those.

So I expect they will keep them at least until 2030.