PLAN Carrier Strike Group and Airwing
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Re: Anti-Carrier Trump Card
You better believe it. Don't think that if attacked the US would run away and hide. No way. The retaliation would be severe.
Remember while the PRC was attacking the CVN the US would be striking back in one fashion or another.
I think some members in this forum think that if the US took heavy casulities in a first strike that the US forces would widthdraw. This would not happen. History prove this.
Once again I pray there is no war between the US and PRC.
Sea Dog said:
You better believe it. Don't think that if attacked the US would run away and hide. No way. The retaliation would be severe.
Remember while the PRC was attacking the CVN the US would be striking back in one fashion or another.
I think some members in this forum think that if the US took heavy casulities in a first strike that the US forces would widthdraw. This would not happen. History prove this.
Once again I pray there is no war between the US and PRC.
Re: What will the 1st PLAN Carrier Battle Group (CBG) look like?
I agree with Jeff Head. They will definitely concentrate more on DDG's for the time being. With a carrier, where will they project naval air power? The South China Sea is the only place I can think of. The Indian Ocean (Near Persian Gulf)?
I agree with Jeff Head. They will definitely concentrate more on DDG's for the time being. With a carrier, where will they project naval air power? The South China Sea is the only place I can think of. The Indian Ocean (Near Persian Gulf)?
Re: What will the 1st PLAN Carrier Battle Group (CBG) look like?
They definitely have to reliably clear that first island chain...but with their sub abd DDG buildup they are working towards it. Also preparing for the more distant future with deals with Pakistan, Venezuela, their activities in Canal Zone, the Bahama, etc.
I still believe they will field a carrier or two...but it will probably be years before they are truly proficient with them.
Sea Dog said:
They definitely have to reliably clear that first island chain...but with their sub abd DDG buildup they are working towards it. Also preparing for the more distant future with deals with Pakistan, Venezuela, their activities in Canal Zone, the Bahama, etc.
I still believe they will field a carrier or two...but it will probably be years before they are truly proficient with them.
Re: Anti-Carrier Trump Card
Aye, Aye bd popeye. To everything you say here. I remember that after the 9/11 attack, some peace-loving Democrats I knew surprised me by calling for an immediate and destructive bombing campaign directed at Al Qaeda, who were hiding in Afghanistan. We were ticked. Those feelings would be intensified by 100 if China decided to attack a U.S. CVN. Guaranteed.
And indeed the U.S. would strike back in one fashion or another. It's called USAF Air Power combined with some U.S. Naval Air Power, mixed with a swarm of cruise missiles, anti-radiation missiles, and electro-magnetic attacks. Afterward, no more access to our markets. No more cash reserves. No more trade surplus. Go ahead and dump the T-bills. We would survive. Oh yes....China would pay dearly from a United USA.
And like you, I pray that there is no general war between the USA and PRC in the first place. The above scenario could quickly turn into something much uglier. Something we should all want to avoid.
bd popeye said:
Aye, Aye bd popeye. To everything you say here. I remember that after the 9/11 attack, some peace-loving Democrats I knew surprised me by calling for an immediate and destructive bombing campaign directed at Al Qaeda, who were hiding in Afghanistan. We were ticked. Those feelings would be intensified by 100 if China decided to attack a U.S. CVN. Guaranteed.
And indeed the U.S. would strike back in one fashion or another. It's called USAF Air Power combined with some U.S. Naval Air Power, mixed with a swarm of cruise missiles, anti-radiation missiles, and electro-magnetic attacks. Afterward, no more access to our markets. No more cash reserves. No more trade surplus. Go ahead and dump the T-bills. We would survive. Oh yes....China would pay dearly from a United USA.
And like you, I pray that there is no general war between the USA and PRC in the first place. The above scenario could quickly turn into something much uglier. Something we should all want to avoid.
Re: What will the 1st PLAN Carrier Battle Group (CBG) look like?
I asked Jeff Head to do so - Jeff, thanks again;
the pic is not a speculation of future PLAN CBGs;
it will show you a combination, which the PLAN could start easy in a short time by using the know how and blue prints, which exist in chinese yards ....
- lets think about it :coffee:
:nono:MIGleader said:
I asked Jeff Head to do so - Jeff, thanks again;
the pic is not a speculation of future PLAN CBGs;
it will show you a combination, which the PLAN could start easy in a short time by using the know how and blue prints, which exist in chinese yards ....
- lets think about it :coffee:
Re: Anti-Carrier Trump Card
Well, perhaps all the posters here would write a petition to the bush administration to demand that they should stop harassing China with uncalled for accussations after accussations (Avg of one a month). China certainly did not meddle with US governmental business ( actually, No lack of issues to comment on)
1. It accuses china of expanding its military
It is modernising, not expanding. US would like to see China still operating Mig-21s, old warships, 1950's tanks and aa-guns, is no surprise.
2. It accuses china of unbalancing the military balance in the region.
Japan and South Korea is no push over either, while emphasing of US interest. Irony.
3. It accusses china of tentency to block international shipping lanes.
China depended more on the shipping lanes more than anybody. Cute.
4. It accusses China and Russia as an Axis power when they has an military with about 10,000 men.
US, Nato and other allies has probably a hundred such excercises a year, far exceeding 10,000.
5. Human Rights
While I agreed china is lacking it. US is no angel either.
Well, perhaps all the posters here would write a petition to the bush administration to demand that they should stop harassing China with uncalled for accussations after accussations (Avg of one a month). China certainly did not meddle with US governmental business ( actually, No lack of issues to comment on)
1. It accuses china of expanding its military
It is modernising, not expanding. US would like to see China still operating Mig-21s, old warships, 1950's tanks and aa-guns, is no surprise.
2. It accuses china of unbalancing the military balance in the region.
Japan and South Korea is no push over either, while emphasing of US interest. Irony.
3. It accusses china of tentency to block international shipping lanes.
China depended more on the shipping lanes more than anybody. Cute.
4. It accusses China and Russia as an Axis power when they has an military with about 10,000 men.
US, Nato and other allies has probably a hundred such excercises a year, far exceeding 10,000.
5. Human Rights
While I agreed china is lacking it. US is no angel either.
Re: Anti-Carrier Trump Card
How many times has it to be said that there will be no war? It all comes down to economics. China has the ecomonic and political aces, America has the military aces. Sending a carrier over the Pacific is quite hard when you can not fund the oil for the jets. The populace would not stand for the end of cheap goods, especially not the current MTV generation. Quite a few transnational corporations do business in China, and Walmart relies on it. If they fall, what happens to the populace?
How many times has it to be said that there will be no war? It all comes down to economics. China has the ecomonic and political aces, America has the military aces. Sending a carrier over the Pacific is quite hard when you can not fund the oil for the jets. The populace would not stand for the end of cheap goods, especially not the current MTV generation. Quite a few transnational corporations do business in China, and Walmart relies on it. If they fall, what happens to the populace?