PLAN Carrier Strike Group and Airwing

bd popeye · Jan 9, 2006

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Gauntlet - looking through your pics I noticed one picture that showed a Flanker (looked empty of loadout but the angle was wrong) taking off from the carrier while the carrier was in port.

I've seen the USN do this on several occasions. but never with a aircraft fully loaded with ordance and fuel. I saw a couple of F-18 shot off CV-64 in san diego bay. They had just a couple of Sidewinders loaded.

Gaunlet, I concur with sea craft excellent pic collection!

Gauntlet · Jan 9, 2006

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bd popeye said:
I've seen the USN do this on several occasions. but never with a aircraft fully loaded with ordance and fuel. I saw a couple of F-18 shot off CV-64 in san diego bay. They had just a couple of Sidewinders loaded.

Gaunlet, I concur with sea craft excellent pic collection!

Thank you, thank you. Took me quite some time to collect them all. Still searching, but I havent seen many Su-33 pics I dont have. Only got 19 of the around 24-30 in service.

But anyway, the USN can do that because of their catapults. A luxuary the Russians doesn't have.

Makes me wonder, let's say the Chinese learned enough of the Melbourne carrier.
Is it theoretical possible to install catapults on the Varyag?

Sczepan · Jan 9, 2006

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Gauntlet said:
...Makes me wonder, let's say the Chinese learned enough of the Melbourne carrier.
Is it theoretical possible to install catapults on the Varyag?

theoretical in front of the angled deck, I would say ....

bd popeye · Jan 9, 2006

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Makes me wonder, let's say the Chinese learned enough of the Melbourne carrier.
Is it theoretical possible to install catapults on the Varyag?

Sure. But from looking at the pics of the Varyag I don't see any signs of that being done. It would be quite and undertaking. Very large steam lines would have to be built from the engine room to the level underneath the flight deck. That would require a couple of years of work I guess. The flight deck would need some work to install the catapults. I don't think the PLAN intends to install a catapult on the Varyag. Perhaps on a future CV.

Sczepan · Jan 9, 2006

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Sczepan said:
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Which private investor will pay so much money to create a swimming casino??
No way, you can't make profits after investing so much money.

So definitely: PLABUDDYs secound alternative seems not to be very realsitic to me.

one more informations:
the former FRANCE, now SS NORWAY, 2 years after boiler explosion (which damaged the engine room) anchored in the haze off Pt. Klang, Malaysia and is waiting for scrape

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to use this ship for casino would be much cheaper than to work with the Varjag ....

MIGleader · Jan 9, 2006

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Seacraft said:
How do Flankers handle a "bolter" on the Admiral K? Pray? Is there room to get down the deck? They come in on angle as well if I remember from the pics so no sense jamming right pedal to get back to the jump

Damn that was a lot of rust to chisel and prime on the Varyag :nono:

well, the russian su-33s are supposedly fitted with powerful tvc al-31 engines, which the russians consider essential to quick emergency take off if the plane misses the arrestor wire. it would also help alot in combat.

swimmerXC · Jan 9, 2006

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You guys want a nice reading?
Here ya go:

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It's about "2005: A Turning Point for Chinaâ€™s Aircraft Carrier Ambitions"
Well I guess the title explains it all :china:
I got this in the pic thread already but here ya go
bd popeye your wish of seeing more pics came true :china:

swimmerXC · Jan 9, 2006

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can't fit more than 5 links or pics on the same page...

New2u · Jan 10, 2006

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bump...

anyway i found this artic very interesting..from all the news i've heard i think the "

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" will be with the Varyag and the Su-33 that china is hoping to get will be with the new one that has yet to be built. and nice pics.

bd popeye · Jan 11, 2006

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Thanks for the new pics! The ship looks cleaner to me. Less crap all over. . I'm waiting for the day when they install PAR, sensors and weapons. Then we will really know something...

PLAN Carrier Strike Group and Airwing

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