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Re: PLAN Aircraft Carrier programme..News & Views
My argument is never about PLAN's next indigenous carrier will feature EMALS. Rather, my argument is that it is not likely for PLAN's indigenous carriers to feature steam catapults, with logistic issues being the major rationale. I have pointed out on more than one occasions that PLAN will not use EMALS if they feel the system is not ready. I think people need to stop twisting my statements.
The prop fighters analogy mirrors the argument justifying old technologies on future vessels. So, I'm glad you point out the ridiculousness of the prop fighter statement, since it reflects the ridiculous of the justification for steam catapults. Old technologies may be good, but that does not necessary make them good for future use. The keyword here is future, not existing.To purposely pick prop 'fighters' and compare it to steam catapults is not even close comparing apples to apples. Besides if you truly want to compare legacy technologies you should at least compare prop in general (as oppose to just fighters) to jet turbines in which case I think planes like C-130s, A400M, E2D Hawkeyes whose production line will continue for many decades more would like to have a word and that's not even counting the civilian market which has dozens more.
As for nitpicking 'old' tech still relevant today I can name dozens of legacy tech that is still used and produced today. the Colt 1911 comes to mind.. it is more than 100 yrs old and it is still being used and widely produced today in large numbers inspite of great advances made in firearms technologies.
Design? I do not believe I have used that word. With regards to the Nimitz class, what I intend to say is that these ships are built with steam catapults and are forced to stick with steam catapults until retirement as consequence. It has nothing to do with design, so whether Liaoning design can incorporate catapults is not the point of contention.Like you said Nimitz is 'forced' to use steam cat because that was part of the original design spec however as we have all speculated here Liaoning #2 and possibly #3 are ALSO based on an old design even if it's a new built even though it didn't have a catapult in the original design. EMALs and it's powerband requirements are still a relatively new technology in the US and certainly much newer to China. I just do not believe PLAN will put EMALS in their next carrier for the the reason I already stated in my previous post. They are possibly building Liaoning #2 NOW as we speak and even if they have not cut their first steel I am almost certain the design phase is all but finalized. I do however believe they will put EMALS in their INDIGENOUS carrier which me and many others here believe will be a full flat deck CV.
Just to summarized, I never said EMALS was bad not have I ever said steam cats are better than EMALS. All I'm saying is if you build a ship TODAY unless you are USN odds are you WON'T put EMALS on her!
My argument is never about PLAN's next indigenous carrier will feature EMALS. Rather, my argument is that it is not likely for PLAN's indigenous carriers to feature steam catapults, with logistic issues being the major rationale. I have pointed out on more than one occasions that PLAN will not use EMALS if they feel the system is not ready. I think people need to stop twisting my statements.