PLAN Carrier Construction
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SinoSoldier
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Did you not see the drawing posted here? Yes it does.
Did you not see the drawing posted here? Yes it does.
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Sure. How secret can those photos be if the moderator at some military forum already have them? Do those alledgedly preventing the photos from being released really think the only people worth keeping the progress of the carrier secret from - foreign intelligence - can't already piece together more than a handful of photos are likely to reveal?
Sure. How secret can those photos be if the moderator at some military forum already have them? Do those alledgedly preventing the photos from being released really think the only people worth keeping the progress of the carrier secret from - foreign intelligence - can't already piece together more than a handful of photos are likely to reveal?
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Well, if they are Chinese Military forums in the PRC, as in on the mainland...my guess is that they will not release them if the CCP/State Security tells them not to. Anyhow, that's how I took it.
SinoSoldier
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If they don't post them, then they are secret. People have known to be fired from their jobs and detained 48 hours if they are caught posting restricted photos in China.
And seeing how it were the civilians who got the first photos of the J-20 before any foreign intelligence service, then the answer is yes, they are the only ones keeping the secret.
If they don't post them, then they are secret. People have known to be fired from their jobs and detained 48 hours if they are caught posting restricted photos in China.
And seeing how it were the civilians who got the first photos of the J-20 before any foreign intelligence service, then the answer is yes, they are the only ones keeping the secret.
This will be my only point on this topic of Chinese military forum picture posting.
There are 2 or 3 major sources of Chinese military photos. There are the ones with close relationship with PLA that get more secret photos and also censors their board for any pictures that PLA deem to not be ready to be released. And there are ones with less close relationship with PLA that get all the open pictures. Either cases, if PLA is really unhappy with something that got posted, the forum moderator will get a call and have to take it down. They can keep it hidden until they get released at a later date. Sometimes, we don't see those photos until year's later when the platform is already in service.
Remember, people who post unauthorized pictures may get fired or put to jail (although this doesn't happen as much anymore). The censorship system they use for confidential material is not always consistent, so military fans often get emboldened to take greater chances and put them online. This also puts those fans in dangerous situation. I think we are all grateful that PLA is allowing more photos to come out without endangering the jobs or livelihood of those photographers. These guys don't owe us anything. So be respectful of what they post and also the risks they take.
There are 2 or 3 major sources of Chinese military photos. There are the ones with close relationship with PLA that get more secret photos and also censors their board for any pictures that PLA deem to not be ready to be released. And there are ones with less close relationship with PLA that get all the open pictures. Either cases, if PLA is really unhappy with something that got posted, the forum moderator will get a call and have to take it down. They can keep it hidden until they get released at a later date. Sometimes, we don't see those photos until year's later when the platform is already in service.
Remember, people who post unauthorized pictures may get fired or put to jail (although this doesn't happen as much anymore). The censorship system they use for confidential material is not always consistent, so military fans often get emboldened to take greater chances and put them online. This also puts those fans in dangerous situation. I think we are all grateful that PLA is allowing more photos to come out without endangering the jobs or livelihood of those photographers. These guys don't owe us anything. So be respectful of what they post and also the risks they take.
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Well, GE has updated photos from dalian and jiangnan shipyard that date from the current year. I havent spoted anything that looked like an AC, except that module. I wonder if other people here have spotted anything.
Well, GE has updated photos from dalian and jiangnan shipyard that date from the current year. I havent spoted anything that looked like an AC, except that module. I wonder if other people here have spotted anything.
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Something like that ??
Deino
Something like that ??
Deino
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if the carrier is of modular construction, the fabrication of the modules could have been underway for some time in some enclosed or even off-site locations before the first recognizeably carrier-like hull assembly appears out in the open in the yard. The first modules to appear may not reach flight deck or hanger deck level, and may extend only part of the ship's length, and so may not be easily recognized as parts of a carrier.
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Blackstone
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One picture shows a ski ramp and the other one doesn't. Which is more accurate?
One picture shows a ski ramp and the other one doesn't. Which is more accurate?