dont get upset, that his tricks, really annoying
PLAN Anti-ship/surface missiles
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One other thing I forgot to mention. It is a certainty that the DF-21D will receive targeting updates during its entire mid-course phase. Even if it is entirely blacked-out during reentry, once it decelerates with a pull-up maneuver (in the same manner as the Wu-14 and the Pershing II), slows down, and sheds the ionizing plasma shield, it will be able to both turn on its own seeker and also resume updates from satellites. This is a matter of a few minutes at most between last mid-course satellite update and new post-deceleration satellite update + onboard sensor data, during which a carrier can have traveled at most a few km from its last known location.dont get upset, that his tricks, really annoying
SamuraiBlue
Captain
And the re-entry module's velocity would be around Mach 5~6 in which targeting solution can easily be obtained and shot down by SM2/6 missiles.
Yes, it could be attacked by both SM-2 and SM-6 at this stage. Whether they could succeed in intercepting the DF-21D is another matter. Your point is what, exactly? And where's that "demonstration" of an impenetrable ionized plasma shield surrounding a reentering DF-21D, or are you content to acknowledge that this is just coming out of your mouth and nowhere else?
You see his tactic again. Shifting goals after running out of arguments of "absolute plasma shield". Now he is using one of other absurdities, that is "absolute 100% guaranteed evasion of SM-2 and SM-6". As 100% only exist in theory but never in real world, SB is surely "invincible" but only on paper.
That way of thinking is equal to religious faith, not scientific because scientific method reject absolute sure thinking. A scientific rational person will say "according to what I know of, I believe ABC, that what-I-know of is only one of the possibilities of the truth. I believe what I know but I am also open to other possibilities and willing to be proven wrong". I am afraid that there are many religious "Engineers" and "Scientists" in the world who treat their knowledge and conclusion as God rather than one of many achievements/step stones towards the final truth which human can only get infinitely close but never be exact there.
BTW, the other thread he was schooled is the "China space program" thread, where he was told by me about the recent test of down-sized new generation space capsule on board LM-7. It successfully demonstrated the ability of maintaining communication through out the whole plasma period by exactly the method SB rejected on the ground of size. Again, he just refuse to face the fact and reality and hoped people in this thread will ignore that fact as he chose to. Some facts about the new reentry vehicle, height 2.3m, max diameter 2.6m, able to maintain communication through plasma period. DF-21 and DF-6 are 1.4m in diameter. It is very plausible that DF-21's warhead does the same if downsizing from a space shuttle to a 2.6m RV works. It is also very likely that the ASBM's warhead enters the atmosphere tail first during the plasma period and flip 180 degrees after deceleration for terminal guidance.
Regarding the efficiency of SM-2 and SM-6 against a warhead traveling at March "5-6", SB should think about P-700 and P-800 which travel below March 3. If those two are considered credible, then a March 6 ASBM is deadly.
vesicles
Colonel
If the reentry vehicle is surrounded by ionized plasma, which potentially renders it unable to communicate with satellites and all, the vehicle itself would be completely stealthy. That means intercepting missiles won't be able to see it either?
If the intercepting missile can obtain info on the vehicle, the vehicle can also communicate with its own satellites too?
antiterror13
Brigadier
SB normally googles it and then ...... eureka!!! ... become or acting as an expert, knows everything
and then run away after losing arguments with others ... and out of the blue come again making silly comments of China after googling around ... a nuisance
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SamuraiBlue
Captain
No, ionized plasma doesn't absorb elector-magnetism it just bounces it back so the whole ionized plasma field will shine brightly on any radar screen from the out side. From the inside smothered within the field nothing goes out and just bounces within.
I doubt that DF-21D will be ever launched when China is truly fights against the US. Because with both countries capability in space, their stand off will be in orbit instead of launching missiles in the atmosphere. Whoever dominate the orbit will be win the war.
Why are you still talking in this thread about ionizing plasma? Where is your "demonstration" that a satellite cannot communicate with the DF-21D? Where is your evidence that the DF-21D could "easily" be "shot down" by the SM-2 and SM-6?