PLAN 2018 Review (Jeff Head)

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You can. Just don't post off topic stuff.

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Jeff Head said:

CV-20 CATOBAR, Nuclear powered design complete, with EMALS catapults and nuclear power, about 90,000 ton displacement and capabl of 50-60 aircraft. Probably a 2026 launc time frame.
CV-21 COATOBAR, Nuclear powered, awaiting scheduling slot, , with EMALS catapults and nuclear power, about 90,000 ton displacement and capabl of 50-60 aircraft. Probably a 2028 launc time frame.

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I feel uncomfortable trying to correct you since you obviously are more knowledgeable than me but from what I read the type 003 CNV will be closer to the Ford class with a tonnage of 110,000 tons.

What I have heard has indicated 90,000+ tons for the nuclear carriers.

Time will tell.

It could easily be at 100,000 tons. Truthfully, right now it is probably unclear what it will actually be...but the "chatter" has also stated 90,000+ tons.

bd popeye said:

Jeff this is an awesome assessment! You've done a fantastic job of research and posting the truth...I will be reposting your 2018 PLAN review at;

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Thanks so much for posting Jeff!

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Thank you my friend.

Your compliments mean a lot to me and are an great honor.

Thanks for reposting too.

We havwe the vessels, and the programs to set things straight, if we could just get an admin and a congresss ready and willing to do their duty for the country and its defense.

The XUmwalt could be a fantastic vessel, and be the foundation for the CCX.

The LCS could become the foundations for the new FFs.

The Rail Gun and Laser are both ready to be tested real time at sea...in fatc the laser has been at sea for several years now and with the type of power available on the Ford and Xumwlat...and potentially the Burke III, they could be fielded on those vessels...same with the rail gun, both a ASW version and an CIWS version.

The F-35C is going to be good to go...and despite the raings of those progressive liberals, and some of America's rivals...it is going to revolutionize air warfare, both conventional and carrier warfare down to the LHD/A and LPHs.

SO, we have a very good poistion, despite some of the unbelievable short sighted and wrogn head decisions of the last eght years...we still have a strong foundation to build on.

God's speed to you my fr

Lethe said:

Hi Jeff,

Thanks for the review. While for many here the projects and details are familiar, there is a real lack of quality English writing on Chinese military matters, and overviews like yours perform a valuable service in helping less familiar folk get up to speed.

I have read with sadness of your progressing cancer. Though we are of very different minds politically, I respect your even-handed moderation of this forum, and have read with interest the snippets of your life that you have shared here -- including, of course, your model shipbuilding hobby. It is in the nature of military-oriented forums such as these to tend towards an adversarial, politicised discourse that highlights the differences between us, but the things we share run deeper. We all emerge from dust and return to dust. Along the way we try to gain a measure of wisdom, to share our joys and sorrows with family and friends, and to accomplish something meaningful. Thanks for sharing this part of your journey with us.

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Thank you my friend...and I say that sincerely.

And, in all honestly and truth, I wish God's blessings and His speed to you and yours...irrespective of any differences.

What unites us if far stronger than some of those things.

Gustaf Adolf said:

I feel uncomfortable trying to correct you since you obviously are more knowledgeable than me but from what I read the type 003 CNV will be closer to the Ford class with a tonnage of 110,000 tons.

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Too early to tell however regardless of whether the future CVNs are 110k or sub 100k, the fact is they will exponentially increase in many order of magnitudes the power projection and capabilities of PLAN naval air combat.

Thank you for putting together this report Jeff. It is something I look forward to reading every year, and I've read almost 10 of them so far! All the best with everything, and I sincerely hope there will be many more to come.

Several excellent pictures of the PLAN Carrier battle group, and a couple of a combined carrier-amphibious task force...a large PLAN grouping:



Before 2010, if someone had told you that between 2015 and 2018 you'd be seeing these types of pictures regularly...they would have scoffed at it (except for a lot of us here on SD).

Well, there's no scoffing now.

There are two submarines ahead in the formation, a supply ship and a Type 071