PLAAF Munitions

crobato

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Re: PLAAF precision guided munitions

A missile like the KD-88 cannot loiter for a long time. Missiles simply don't have the fuel capacity and the aerodynamic lift to loiter. And if they don't find something to kill within that short time period, thats a large amount of money that goes to waste with every missile.

You are talking of a job much better done with UCAVs than ARMs. Harpy goes to mind.
 

tphuang

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here is the entire JDW article on KD-88 and YJ-91
the stuff on KH-31 and YJ-91 is kind of interesting. Not sure how true that is. But the section of YJ-8K is just weird, I'm pretty sure it's a YJ-83K. Now, they are going to just call it YJ-8K with a turboject engine?
A video produced to celebrate the recent
achievements of the China Flight
Test Establishment (CFTE) reveals
a wealth of evidence for new Chinese
weaponsprogrammesandthepaceof
weapons systems development by the People's
Liberation ArmyAir Force (PLAAF).
The official footage, which has now appeared
on the internet, shows an entirely new class of
air-to-surface missiles, airborne launch trials
of the Kh-31 high-speed anti-radiation missile
(ARM) and the PL-12 active radar beyond-visual-
range air-to-air missile (BVRAAM) , heavy
air-to-surface loads for the Chengdu J-10 and
Shenyang J-11B fighters, plus extensive test and
development activity with virtually every frontline
combat aircraft in Chinese service.
Most intriguing is a new missile design
believed to be designated KD-88.A few blurred
images of a weapon labelled KD-88 have been
seen prior to this but the CFTE film shows two
distinct versions being trialled by Xian JH-7A
attack aircraft. The missile is roughly 3.5 m long
and powered by a small turbojet/turbofan engine
with an underslung intake. Two different seeker
types are fitted – one appears to be electro-optical
(EO, potentially an imaging infrared seeker)
while the other is either an active radar seeker or
a passive RF-homing seeker for the defence suppression
mission.
JH-7As carry the KD-88 together with an
unidentified pod under its centre fuselage. This
pod is tipped with two di-electric fairings pointing
to its use as an emitter locator to cue anARM
version of the KD-88. However, it may also
function asadatalink to provide man-in-the-loop
guidance over extended ranges for the EO-seeker
KD-88 variant.
Also shown alongside the two KD-88 weapons
is what appears to be an air-launched YJ-8K
(C-801) anti-ship missile fitted with a new turbojet
engine. This is not the same as the much larger
C-802K weapon.
Another important development is the launch
of what is almost certainly a Chinese-built
Kh-31P (AS-17 %Krypton&) ramjet-powered
ARM by a JH-7. China is believed to have
launched a national programme to build Kh-
31s that was so extensive it consumed most of
the industrial resources at the missile's Russian
designers and developers, leaving the original
manufacturers (Soyuz-Turayevo and Zvezda-
Strela) unable to continue production in Russia.
Several test launches of the PL-12 (SD-10)
BVRAAM are shown, all using the Shenyang
J-11B (licence-built Su-27SK). The PL-12 is
now in operational service on both the J-11B
and the J-10, marking a major achievement for
China&smissile industry.
J-11Bs and J-10s are also shown carrying (and
in some cases delivering) sizeable bomb loads,
proving that they are true multirole aircraft. The
emergence of the JH-7A as both a precisionguided
munitions carrier and now a platform for
standoff weapons is significant. Furthermore,
with the Kh-31P (local designation YJ-91) and
perhaps an ARM version of the KD-88 the JH-
7A is functioning as a dedicated suppression of
enemy air defences (SEAD) aircraft–anentirely
new capability for the PLAAF.
The resources and facilities allocated to the
CFTE are very extensive by Western standards.
The video shows a test fleet of dozens of aircraft
based at least two sprawling air bases. The commentary
notes that the CFTE has conducted
flight testing on 36 different types of aircraft and
28 types of aero-engines.
 

Ryz05

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Re: PLAAF precision guided munitions

here is the entire JDW article on KD-88 and YJ-91
the stuff on KH-31 and YJ-91 is kind of interesting. Not sure how true that is. But the section of YJ-8K is just weird, I'm pretty sure it's a YJ-83K. Now, they are going to just call it YJ-8K with a turboject engine?

Thank you for the info tphuang. It is interesting to see how excited the PLA is about high tech missiles, because after all, missile is a Chinese invention, so it gives some morale or pride if China has the best missiles. Highly capable missiles also offer a deterrance and strategic value.
 
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bd popeye

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The LS-6 made an appearence at a trade show in China yesterday. Will it be for export? Or is it just for show and use by the PLAAF?

A few more PIX of the trade show in the http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/general-pictures/daily-pix-3421.html thread.

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Workers prepare a Chinese made LS-6 Thunder Stone Guided Glide Bomb model displayed on the opening day of the China Aviation Expo 2007 in central Beijing, 19 September 2007. China's vow to be more open about its military reflects its growing confidence, but is unlikely to satisfy foreign demands for more transparency about the world's largest army, analysts said on 4 September as China announced in March that it would spend 45 billion dollars this year, an increase of 17.8 percent, on the People's Liberation Army, which includes the navy and air force. The expo showcases both local and foreign, civil and military aviation hardware and will run until 22 September. AFP PHOTO/TEH ENG KOON (Photo credit should read TEH ENG KOON/AFP/Getty Images)
 

crobato

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Re: PLAAF precision guided munitions

I think they are also looking for potential export customers (probably using GPS) and for PLAAF use.
 

challenge

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Re: PLAAF precision guided munitions

improve LS-6 is currently being develop,this is according to chinese magazine published last year.
increases the range by adding either rocket booster or small turbojet and optical seeker for terminal homing.
this gave the missile JSSOW capability.
 

sumdud

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It needs better CEP, especially if it is headed for the foreign market. The South African Umbani kit's better accuracy would likely take away China's export market.
 

tphuang

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It needs better CEP, especially if it is headed for the foreign market. The South African Umbani kit's better accuracy would likely take away China's export market.
are you sure about that, because the test showed that LS-6's accuracy is smaller than the stated 15 m CEP.
 

cmb=1968

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gps,glasnos and gallalayo signals can be jamed douring war the russians developt systems to interfere with them serbians and iraq atempted to disrupt them.
 

tphuang

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some pictures of Chinese PGMs, I guess.
The first one is a picture of KD-88, not sure what they are doing to it.
And the second one is a bunch of LS-500J (LT-2).
 

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