PLA to replicate US survival training

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chopsticks

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FreeAsia2000 said:
On the contrary MIGleader i think the PLA believes that it may be engaged in land campaigns in south east asia which is why it is training for jungle warfare.
However these campaigns would be conducted as a high tech army like the US
and unlike previous guerilla warfare techniques eg the NLA

Is Taiwan similar to South East Asia in geography ?
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my platoon sgts who have been to Taiwan for training said that their vegetation is less than South-East Asia.. and i think the climate is a lot better.. (cooler & less humid) the food is nice too!!! :D

South-East Asian climate is really hot and terrible at times.. most Caucasians really can't really take the heat. i remember my literature teacher used to look like he jumped into the pool fully clothed before he came to class. lol... he was always wiping his sweat too..

and other stuff i heard from my sgts is that when USMC came over to train here (Singapore), they couldnt even do the route marches.. but they are supposedly able to do those log pt crap while running!!! lol... i guess its the heat and humidity... route marching in South-East Asian climate without the vegetation is the WORST!!! i dislike it the most... i even had hallucinations once because of scorching heat lol (but i still completed!!! :) )
 
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FreeAsia2000

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MIGleader said:
well, taiwan doesnt have huge forest. maybe some mountains. but any fighting there would be on relatively flat terrain or int cities. why would the pla want to fight in south east asia? china already has begun improving relations with vietnam.
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What about nepal ? we know that India is actively intervening there with
US support and providing jungle warfare training

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also we know that the PLA has now a doctrine of winning through the use
of elite troops

(Nan Li, "The PLA's Evolving Warfighting Doctrine, Strategy and Tactics, 1985-95: A Chinese Perspective," in The China Quarterly, ed. David Shambaugh (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1996) 451-53.)

so the question is why jungle training ? it's hardly going to be used in central asia therefore the PLA will probably be undertaking some actions in the Spratleys with the PLAN as a test for Taiwan OR in Nepal/Burma
 
MIGleader

MIGleader

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FreeAsia2000 said:
What about nepal ? we know that India is actively intervening there with
US support and providing jungle warfare training

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also we know that the PLA has now a doctrine of winning through the use
of elite troops

(Nan Li, "The PLA's Evolving Warfighting Doctrine, Strategy and Tactics, 1985-95: A Chinese Perspective," in The China Quarterly, ed. David Shambaugh (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1996) 451-53.)

so the question is why jungle training ? it's hardly going to be used in central asia therefore the PLA will probably be undertaking some actions in the Spratleys with the PLAN as a test for Taiwan OR in Nepal/Burma
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nepal eh? well, i think the pla will lay off of there for now. even if indian/u.s troops train their, they still are on good realtions with china. theres no conflict there. but i see why its a good isea to do jungle training now, just in case of future conflict there.
 
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chopsticks

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if u guys read the papers, Nepal is in some sort of civil war right now... some Royal family feud or something..

anyways, no one would touch Nepal cos its inbetween India and China.. just look at Kashmir.. i'm sure all sides want to avoid the same fate!!!
 
Vytautas

Vytautas

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anyways, no one would touch Nepal cos its inbetween India and China.. just look at Kashmir.. i'm sure all sides want to avoid the same fate!!!
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Wow!This is so relavant to chinese survival training...
 
PiSigma

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let's try to get back to survival training guys.

in the past few years, china have tried to expand the officer base rapidly by recuiting many fresh-out-of-school students that just graduated from university with a bachelars or masters or even PhD. these graduates from civilian universities are often out of shape and just have a lot of brains. and since it's the military, they know that no matter what department your serving in, there will be a time that the officer is needed on the field, so survival training is essential even for officers that just do research all day long. This is usually not the case for graduates from military schools, because of the them have to serve for a period of time and are promoted to a position that allows them to go to officer school, or are recuited right from kids from high school. also military schools have very strict physical education program that everyone have to complete. since china is a large country, the geography and climate for different locations are completely different. many miiltary regions have special training, like in the north, they'll teach some soldiers to ski.

the normal grunts gets very similar training to now, which is very intense already. the special forces gets to travel to friendly nations like venezuala sometimes to train in terran and climate that's to available in china.

also US have some of the best training in the world for many of its forces, there's not reason not to try to learn something that's better than what they currently have.
 
MIGleader

MIGleader

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PiSigma said:
let's try to get back to survival training guys.

in the past few years, china have tried to expand the officer base rapidly by recuiting many fresh-out-of-school students that just graduated from university with a bachelars or masters or even PhD. these graduates from civilian universities are often out of shape and just have a lot of brains. and since it's the military, they know that no matter what department your serving in, there will be a time that the officer is needed on the field, so survival training is essential even for officers that just do research all day long. This is usually not the case for graduates from military schools, because of the them have to serve for a period of time and are promoted to a position that allows them to go to officer school, or are recuited right from kids from high school. also military schools have very strict physical education program that everyone have to complete. since china is a large country, the geography and climate for different locations are completely different. many miiltary regions have special training, like in the north, they'll teach some soldiers to ski.

the normal grunts gets very similar training to now, which is very intense already. the special forces gets to travel to friendly nations like venezuala sometimes to train in terran and climate that's to available in china.

also US have some of the best training in the world for many of its forces, there's not reason not to try to learn something that's better than what they currently have.
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who are "the normal grunts"? you mean us soldiers, or chinese soldiers?

the normal grunts gets very similar training to now, which is very intense already. the special forces gets to travel to friendly nations like venezuala sometimes to train in terran and climate that's to available in china.

neither china or the u.s sends troops to venezueala. what are u talking about? you might want to clarify the paragraph
 
rommel

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MIGleader said:
who are "the normal grunts"? you mean us soldiers, or chinese soldiers?

the normal grunts gets very similar training to now, which is very intense already. the special forces gets to travel to friendly nations like venezuala sometimes to train in terran and climate that's to available in china.

neither china or the u.s sends troops to venezueala. what are u talking about? you might want to clarify the paragraph
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Well, the US sent some soldiers in the past to Venezuala, it was 4 active team of the US Special Force, the ODA 763, ODA 746, ODA 743 and ODB 740 (a total of 47 men) was the 4 team sent to train the Venezualian Army.

ODB 740 was sent to train the 6th Regional Command at San Fernado de Apure to give battle staff course instruction

ODA 743 was sent to the 69th Commando Rurales at San Fernado de Apure to give light infantry training

ODA 763 was sent in Macarao to the GAC FAC (Grupo de Acciones de Comandos Fuerzas Especiales de la Guardia Naciinal de Venezuela, it's the real name, it's the finest counter-terrosit unit in South America, a rough equivalent to the 1st SFOD-D (Delta Force)) to train the GAC FAC for light infantry and antiterrorist training.

ODA 746 was sent in El Guayabo to the 107th Special Force Battalion for light infantry training.

The four mission was know under the JCS (Joint chief of Staff) mission number of CN-9034, CN-9035, CN-9036 and CN-9037.

That was in 1999. BTW, all those teams are from the 2/7th SFG that are based at Fort Bragg, North Carolina

In the training, there was a lot of Survival, Evasion, Rescue and Escape training.
 
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guys the US armed forces topic gotta stop... unless you want one of us to change the title to "Comparing US army trainning to PLA trainning"
 
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