PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency

Sleepyjam

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China has its own interests. China selling HJ-12 to Russia has nothing to do with EU. China also does not kowtow to anyone, not EU, not anyone.

EU is not particularly hostile to Russia. The most hostile to Russia are the US and the UK which feel their Anglo Saxon hegemony threatened.

Selling JF-17 to Argentina irks the UK due to territorial dispute between Argentina and the UK. Selling HJ-12 to Russia does not irk EU. There is no territorial dispute between EU and Russia.
Lol “not particularly hostile”
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It added a significant number of persons and entities to the sanctions list, and adopted unprecedented measures with the aim of significantly weakening Russia's economic base, depriving it of critical technologies and markets, and significantly curtailing its ability to wage war.
They are literally waging an economic war against Russia. China’s neutral position is wise at least for now. I get the sense that the US is fuming at China’s position because it’s neither anti EU or anti Russia.
 
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ACuriousPLAFan

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China has its own interests. China selling HJ-12 to Russia has nothing to do with EU. China also does not kowtow to anyone, not EU, not anyone.

EU is not particularly hostile to Russia. The most hostile to Russia are the US and the UK which feel their Anglo Saxon hegemony threatened.

Selling JF-17 to Argentina irks the UK due to territorial dispute between Argentina and the UK. Selling HJ-12 to Russia does not irk EU. There is no territorial dispute between EU and Russia.

Russia views EU as being merely the economic department of NATO.
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BoraTas

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China has its own interests. China selling HJ-12 to Russia has nothing to do with EU. China also does not kowtow to anyone, not EU, not anyone.

EU is not particularly hostile to Russia. The most hostile to Russia are the US and the UK which feel their Anglo Saxon hegemony threatened.

Selling JF-17 to Argentina irks the UK due to territorial dispute between Argentina and the UK. Selling HJ-12 to Russia does not irk EU. There is no territorial dispute between EU and Russia.
China loosening enforcement of Fentanyl export regulations would be far more damaging to the USA than sending missiles to Ukraine and wouldn't ruin European-Chinese relations. What happens in Ukraine is totally irrelevant to the USA.
 

Yommie

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China loosening enforcement of Fentanyl export regulations would be far more damaging to the USA than sending missiles to Ukraine and wouldn't ruin European-Chinese relations. What happens in Ukraine is totally irrelevant to the USA.

That's right. Russia is no threat to the US anymore than Russia is a threat to Brazil. I don't see Brazil sending artillery to Ukraine the way the US does.
 

davidau

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Sun Tzu is way smarter than Xi. Sun Tzu would arm Russia with thousands of HJ-12 missiles. You cannot compare a world famous strategist with Xi.
Sun Tzu was a brilliant strategist for a few million people. Xi transforms 1.4 billion people from backward, poor and iliterate China into a modern, moderately wealthy, and strong China. You can not compare apples with pears!
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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On the contrary, Russia can help Germany and France (let's be honest, EU is all about Germany and France) counter Anglo Saxon hegemony which is the US and the UK.
Unfortunately, Germany and the EU are not led by people like Merkel anymore.

Nowadays, the EU is full of people who lack spines. Russia's invasion of Ukraine merely surged US involvement and grip of NATO, and hence, the EU zone.

Don't forget that the Euro got throughoutly fvcked as well. Alongside the current energey crisis, so don't expect Germany and France to hold on as strong as they do in the past, especially in the face of stronger Anglo-Saxon hegemonic assault on mainland Europe.
 

Yommie

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Don't forget that the Euro got throughoutly fvcked as well. Alongside the current energey crisis, so don't expect Germany and France to hold on as strong as they do in the past, especially in the face of stronger Anglo-Saxon hegemonic assault on mainland Europe.

Anglo Saxon hegemony is a decaying power the way Rome was. These days whites are not even 60% of the US population and falling sharply.
 

plawolf

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I hate to quote Joe Biden but come on, man! Really? How about spending beyond a measly 1.4% of GDP. Maybe get to the NATO minimum of 2% at least.
You are getting way too fixated on a number. Instead look at what is actually happening on the ground and tell me where China is not closing the gap to the US militarily or even pulling ahead.

As a counter example, look at Ukraine and the ridiculous waste happening when you just blindly throw mountains of money at a problem and actually expect that money to magic armies out of thin air overnight. The real world doesn’t work like that.

Chinese defence spending as a percentage of GDP is modest because Chinese GDP has been rising so spectacularly for decades. The real year-on-year budge growth has basically never fallen below 10% for more years than I can easily recall. And that’s pretty much as fast as something as vast as the PLA can growth without wasting too much. Double the budget and you won’t get anything like double the fighting power, just rampant inflation and waste and maybe even corruption.

And that’s just the official figure, if you don’t think China has significant defence spending squirrelled away under other budgets than I got a bridge in Africa to sell you. If China put its actual defence spending in its white paper, it will absolutely cause the Americans to loose their shit and kick start a new Cold War and arms race. Why give them that clarify when a little ‘creative accounting’ on where certain projects gets their funding can help to keep the Americans complacent and more focused on fighting their ideological enemies at home?
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Sun Tzu was a brilliant strategist for a few million people. Xi transforms 1.4 billion people from backward, poor and iliterate China into a modern, moderately wealthy, and strong China. You can not compare apples with pears!
That's not on Xi primarily. The work started from Mao, Deng, Jiang, Hu, and Xi and someone else will continue to build on this legacy after Xi.
 
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