PLA Squad and Platoon

netspider

New Member
Hello, I want to know something about the configuration and equipments of (PLA) squad and platoon, such as how many soldiers and officials in the squad and platoon? how many rifles, LMGs, grenade launchers, motors, AT rockets/missles and portable AA missles, such things. Compare to those western armies, such as US marine troops, and russian army, which side has more firepower? Please enlighten me if you know, thank you,
 

Red Guard

Junior Member
somehow it's different for different scale units.
in a 12 squad. there are 1 machine gunner, with 1 loader, sometimes, 1 type 69 rocket launcher with one loader, that takes 4, and the rest are rifle men.

but it's certainly different in mech division, since a type 86 would take about 8 people and 1 squad leader also as the commander of the vehcile

very confusing.......
 

netspider

New Member
Red Guard said:
somehow it's different for different scale units.
in a 12 squad. there are 1 machine gunner, with 1 loader, sometimes, 1 type 69 rocket launcher with one loader, that takes 4, and the rest are rifle men.

but it's certainly different in mech division, since a type 86 would take about 8 people and 1 squad leader also as the commander of the vehcile

very confusing.......

By loader, I suppose you mean a man carrying bullets or rockets? Why there is a dedicated man assigned to this role? Does he carry other weapons?
 

Red Guard

Junior Member
ja. so far i could give you the exact old infantry, or referring as "light infantry" to canadian units. it's a 11 man squad (which is funny, i used to remember it's 12 men). which is in the 1979 viet nam war. squad leader and vice squad leader takes type 56 assault rifle for each, 1 machine gunner uses type 56 machine gun, a loader for the gunner, normally he carries extra ammo for him, i think, the gunner carries 2 ammo drum, and he carries another 2, which makes it to 4, and i think he carries submachine gun himself, or just a pistol, i am not very sure. then the rest are riflemen with type 56 semi auto rifles. after the war, everyone uses type 56 assault rifle.
here is what i have
1 sub machine gunner, 1 submachine gun, 150 rounds, 4 grenades. this means rifleman.
rifle man, this is sniper or sharpshooter, 1 snipering rifle, 100 rounds, 4 grenades.
machine gunner, 1 machine gun, 300 rounds, 2 grenades.
loader, 200 rounds, 2 grenades.
type 69 rocket launcher, 1 type 69/ 40mm rocket launcher, 2 grenades.
loader, 5 rockets, 2 grenades.

loader for machinegunner does two jobs, carry the ammo, and take the machine gun when the gunner is down.
loader for type 69 is normally just carrying the ammo.


this just came in
for a regular 9 people squad.
type 81 rilfe and type 69 rockets squad (this is the old type)
1 machine gunner with 81 squad machine gun.
1 loader for him, no weapon, carrying ammo
1 69-1 rocket launcher
1 loader for him, no weapon, carrying ammo
the rest 5 men including squad leader, 5 type 81-1 rifles

type 95 and PF98 squad
1 95 machine gunner
1 loader
1 PF98 launcher
2 loaders
4 95 riflemen.
 
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PiSigma

"the engineer"
the guy carrying ammo for rpg or machine gun usually have their own personal weapon too, it's just instead of a rifle, he might have a submachine gun that uses the same type of ammo as the rifle to reduce logistics. the reason for separate guys to carry ammo is that machine guns is based on the "spray and pray" theory meaning you just aim in the general direction and/or use as suppressive fire since no country ever use human wave attacks anymore like in ww1. that means the ammo needed is a lot and is heavy enough that it's the only thing one man can carry. same applies for rpg.
 

Red Guard

Junior Member
my dear engineer comrade, or since you are older than me, in japanese i should call you sempai (just reading over japanese comics recently, haha). you ever realize that the submachine gun uses pistol bullets instead of rifle bullets? type 64 submachine gun uses type 54 pistol bullets ( i could be wrong with the type), and type 56 uses 7.62 rifle bullets...........

and no, i don't really know, because i asked over my friends, and it seemed we used submachine gun in 1984, but it was never a standard weapon for a regular infantry unit. weird. i will dig some more.
 

darth sidious

Banned Idiot
Red Guard said:
my dear engineer comrade, or since you are older than me, in japanese i should call you sempai (just reading over japanese comics recently, haha). you ever realize that the submachine gun uses pistol bullets instead of rifle bullets? type 64 submachine gun uses type 54 pistol bullets ( i could be wrong with the type), and type 56 uses 7.62 rifle bullets...........
and no, i don't really know, because i asked over my friends, and it seemed we used submachine gun in 1984, but it was never a standard weapon for a regular infantry unit. weird. i will dig some more.

the "submachine gun" you are talking about is likely a 56 assualt rifle the chinese word for submachine gun more accurately translates into storm rifle
 

Red Guard

Junior Member
no, i never use "submachine gun" to refer to assault rifle. when i say submachine gun, it's a SMG, it is a submachine gun, type 64, type 85 submachine gun. used in 1984 battle. i have the documentary that shot right on the battlefield.
here is the correct infromation
200621115591663946.jpg

it says, the mech brigade infantry squad includes 10 men (within 1 vehcile)
type 81 machine gun, shooter and loader
type 69 40mm rocketlauncher, shooter and loader
driver, and vehcile weaponary shooter
the rest are 4 riflemen.
and from the screenshot, you could see it's a 63 APC. that's what i am talking about the B class infantry division to more advanced mech infantry brigade.
and theoritically, the loaders are not supposed to take any guns. but i suppose they will ask for submachine gun on the field. after all, people aren't stupid.
 

netspider

New Member
I found some information about US Army Squad, here it goes.

Each squad consists 9 men. A Squad is furthered divided to two fire teams.

The first fire team has five troops: Squad leader (Assault Rifle),
fire team leader (assualt rifle), automatic rifleman (SAW), Grenadier (assualt
rifle with grenade launcher) and rifleman (assulat rifle)

The second fire team has four troops: fire tema leader (assualt rifle),
rifleman (assult rifle), Automatic rifleman (SAW), Grenadier(Assault Rifle)

Compare to Chinese infantry unit, we have.

Chinese Squad: 10 men, 1 LMG, 1 RPG, 6 Rifles, unknown grenade launchers
--- assume two loaders do not carry other weapons.

US squad: 9 men, 2 LMG, 0 RPG, 7 Rifles, 2 grenade lanchers

Note, in US squad, there is no loader for LMG. Is this because the US soliders
are stronger to carry ammo?
 

Red Guard

Junior Member
no, actually, the US army thinks it's a problem now. since the SAW is too heavy to carry, not mentioning the ammo, so they are thinking to put a loader in. but after all, US army has lots of cars, they could just put the ammo on the hummer. while one of PLA's specialities is small size unit movement.
 
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