PLA Small arms

sabiothailand

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Returning to the topic. People might not care about this fact, but I see from government tv and several telegram videos with bolivarian militias training with the qbz-97b alongside AKs. The guns have no optics, of course.

These probably aren't representative and maybe they get more spotlight for show, but the militias aren't depicted with other weapons. Either Venezuela bought a decent number of them, or other branches don't like it and decided to give those surpluses to the militia.
Interesting.
Have you ever contacted these militia on their experiences with the QBZ-97B?

I have seen videos of people shooting the gun itself and it seems to recoil a lot for a 5.56. Not sure if it would work well in Venezuelan terrain in case an invasion happened.
 

Saru

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At least not hanging heavy objects from the suspended barrel like many years ago
They still do it, but people are acting like they will be hanging things from the barrel during conflicts.

While it is not very practical, considering this is China I have no doubt those are not even guns just parade replicas roughly the same weight like the guns used in parades due to the strict gun control.
 
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Clango

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why was the 95 replaced with the 191?
because the 95 is an obsolete rifle made for a time when the PLA needed something that just works, it has extremely poor modularity do retrofitting accessories is a pain in the ass, the 191 is a piston AR based platform with an upper and lower split design, so in case there's going to be upgrades it's far easier to yank the uppers off and then replace them directly with upgraded uppers rather than the entire gun being out of commission because upgrading the QBZ95 involves taking the whole gun apart.
 

AZaz09dude

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because the 95 is an obsolete rifle made for a time when the PLA needed something that just works, it has extremely poor modularity do retrofitting accessories is a pain in the ass, the 191 is a piston AR based platform with an upper and lower split design, so in case there's going to be upgrades it's far easier to yank the uppers off and then replace them directly with upgraded uppers rather than the entire gun being out of commission because upgrading the QBZ95 involves taking the whole gun apart.
Not to mention some of the much needed ergonomic improvements not arriving until ~2010(!) with the 95-1, and still offering almost no modularity improvements. Combined with the DBP10 fiasco, looking back the whole thing was a bit of an avoidable shitshow.
 

Clango

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Not to mention some of the much needed ergonomic improvements not arriving until ~2010(!) with the 95-1, and still offering almost no modularity improvements. Combined with the DBP10 fiasco, looking back the whole thing was a bit of an avoidable shitshow.
NGL it's comical how poor the army is compared to both of the other branches, by 2016 the PLAAF already had proper world class jets but it took until the mid 2020s for the PLAGF to finally look like a proper modern army, and they still don't issue ear pro as much as they should be.
 

ITS.HAVOC

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NGL it's comical how poor the army is compared to both of the other branches, by 2016 the PLAAF already had proper world class jets but it took until the mid 2020s for the PLAGF to finally look like a proper modern army, and they still don't issue ear pro as much as they should be.
I wouldn't say they're entirely poorly equipped, their vehicles are adequate.
 

Alkyone

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NGL it's comical how poor the army is compared to both of the other branches, by 2016 the PLAAF already had proper world class jets but it took until the mid 2020s for the PLAGF to finally look like a proper modern army, and they still don't issue ear pro as much as they should be.
from my experience, earpro isn't standard issued in the US military either. All those comtac headsets are personal purchases. Army will issue you those 1$ earplugs at best lol
 
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