PLA Small arms

AZaz09dude

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Looks like CAPF got to try them out:
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kwaigonegin

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Assuming legit note the Micro red dot looks like a Aimpoint Micro T series or a close clone,
mount is still a bit high Should probably have gone with a lower mount .

Yup, generally speaking you want to mount the scope as close to the axis of the barrel as possible. and the smaller the objective lens the lower you want. Aimpoint Micro T has 20mm lens I believe so the mounting is way too high for this application but they may not have a choice in this case due to the ridiculous non detachable handle of the OBZ 95.
IMHO, PLA needs to start equipping their forces with QBZ 95s that has flat top uppers and optics.
 

vesicles

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What's the purpose of the high handle? Does anyone know the PLA's philosophy behind it? No other rifle has its handle that high...
 

SpicySichuan

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Obviously while I stayed in Shanghai in the past three months, I noticed that the PAPs patrolling the Shanghai Hongqiao Railway Station and Nanjing Road/People's Square are all armed to the teeth with 95-1s and type 92 pistols.
 

kwaigonegin

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What's the purpose of the high handle? Does anyone know the PLA's philosophy behind it? No other rifle has its handle that high...

It may have been loosely based off the FAMAS which ALSO suffers from high handle among the many issues it has. That and the high handle also protects the charging handle not too different than the AR 10 and obviously it doubles as a sighting device. Heck if you look at both, the charging handle between the QBZ 95 and AR 10 is practically identical!

Most every manufacturers have redesigned the handle either by getting rid or them or make them detachable... M16A4, M4 etc. HK 416s, FN SCAR and most newer weapons goes straight into optics with flat upper receivers

Handles were fine because it doubles as iron sights but with optical sights now being relatively common in modern armies, the handlebar needs to go the way of the dodo bird.
IMHO the QBZ 95 is way past it's prime for any modern 21st century army and it's not even 20 yrs old.
QBZ-95-1 is improved and has lower handlebar but still not up to snuff.
 

Insignius

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QBZ-95-1 is a rifle designed with late 80s early 90s philosophy in mind. Rugged and mass-producible, with minimum ability to adapt to upgrades, but with OK performance out of the box, so that it can be mass-equipped for a mass-army. And as such, carrying handle and fixed, non-removable iron sights are a must, as both of them are made to enable abusive use by as many generations of recruits as possible.

Nowadays, in the age of - to use that overused term - 'high-speed-low-drag' military philosophy, small-arms put a lot more emphasis on SOF use and being customizable. The QBZ-95 itself isnt a bad gun. Problem is just that a brick that was designed a brick, actually is a brick in terms of ergonomics.
QBZ-95-1 only needs flat top uppers. Nothing more.
 

Blitzo

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A variant of the export Type 97 exists with a flat top picattany rail called type 97nsr-a
A pakistani fellow bought one and reviewed it here:
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I'm sure they could produce a variant of qbz 95-1 with the type 97 nsr-a rail if they really wanted to, but at the end of the day they are producing qbz-95-1s for the lowest denominator.

Still I would like to see a smaller run of nsr-a rail qbz95-1s for SOF, and maybe marines and other RRUs as well, while keeping most 95-1s as standard.
 
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