PLA Small arms

SinoSoldier

Colonel
This 81 has a super long barrel.

I went to a shooting range yesterday and tried shooting the type 92 9mm pistol and type 97A rifle. Both performed well except that the type 97A though with a small caliber similar to the AR series has stronger recoil than what I expected. There was a little malfunction that when reloaded with a new magazine and release the bolt handle, the bolt didn't push the bullet into the chamber, instead the projectile was pushed back into the cartridge.

Is the 97A the export version of the 95-1? Also, what did you mean by the bullet being pushed back into the cartridge?
 

SteelBird

Colonel
Is the 97A the export version of the 95-1? Also, what did you mean by the bullet being pushed back into the cartridge?
Type 97A is an upgrade version of the Type 97 which add 3-round burst to the gun which on the other hand is the export version of the type 95, and the malfunction is similar to the case of the photo below:
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jobjed

Captain
Type 97A is an upgrade version of the Type 97 which add 3-round burst to the gun which on the other hand is the export version of the type 95, and the malfunction is similar to the case of the photo below:

Also, the cartridge in question is the NATO 5.56, not the Chinese 5.8.
 

SteelBird

Colonel
Also, the cartridge in question is the NATO 5.56, not the Chinese 5.8.
Yes, the Type 97A uses 5.56 NATO but I was not sure who was the producer of that failed cartridge. However, I think the failure case I mentioned above is due to the gun, not the bullet. The trainer solved the issue by manually inserting a bullet into the chamber before loading the magazine after two failures of normal loading. Further, I felt that the muzzle jumps up the upper right (not simply jump up). I haven't shot a gun for a very long time before that.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
I went to a shooting range yesterday and tried shooting the type 92 9mm pistol and type 97A rifle. Both performed well except that the type 97A though with a small caliber similar to the AR series has stronger recoil than what I expected. There was a little malfunction that when reloaded with a new magazine and release the bolt handle, the bolt didn't push the bullet into the chamber, instead the projectile was pushed back into the cartridge.
ammunition didn't seat properly so when the bolt tried to go home it got the rear of the case and the bullet tip impacted something. The bullet being held in by light tension was then punched back into the case. It's a Stubbed round.

That's generally not a round issue it's either magazine or bolt. The only short stroking or the magazine not feeding properly.
 

SinoSoldier

Colonel
Type 97A is an upgrade version of the Type 97 which add 3-round burst to the gun which on the other hand is the export version of the type 95, and the malfunction is similar to the case of the photo below:
g7uUxSF.jpg

Ah, thanks. Malfunction seems potentially dangerous especially if that can set off the primer & propellant charge.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Ah, thanks. Malfunction seems potentially dangerous especially if that can set off the primer & propellant charge.
Military primers are pretty stable. Even civilian primers are not likely to spark in such. People have funny ideas about such but they are remarkably unlikely to go boom.
And the Head having been stubbed means that the cartridge has likely failed to go in to battery and the round is an obstruction preventing the bolt from closing and being in a position to strike the primer.
Remedial action is to remove the magazine and clear the chamber. Check for any separation of previous casings. Once you have cleared the chamber chances of discharge are low. Worst thing one could do is try and rechamber the round. It's why the bolt assist is a controversial part on a rifle. Trying to jam a round that failed to fire the first time into the action is like trying to put out a brush fire with whisky.
 

by78

General
More high-resolution images from Zhuhai... Remote weapon stations, grenade launchers, crew served weapons, and other interesting whatnots. I know, I know, some of these are not small arms per se, but opening a dedicated thread seems excessive. I think perhaps this thread's title should be amended to include the aforementioned items.

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