PLA next/6th generation fighter thread

[KampfAlwin]

Could this 6th gen go a similar way with the J-20 in regards to the engine? That it runs an interim engine(WS-15) before the intended one is introduced?

 

[antiterror13]

There are some rumours that WS-10C, the latest variant of TaiHang, has already met most of the original requirements of WS-15, so the latter has to redesign and make high standards.

Including Super Cruise ?

 

[Richard Santos]

Even if surely not an accurate model of the real concept and as such more a generic placeholder, it is anyway a hint towards the PLAAF's future 6th generation fighter concept: Unveiled at the "13th Five-Year Plan" Achievement Exhibition in Shanghai on 24th December 2021.

(Image from Shanghai Avionics Institute of AVIC via Erik Valensvek 45 / @ErikVAL45_MACH5 from Twitter)


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Is that meant to depict all moving wing tip that function as control surfaces, or do those wing tip simply detach for ease of model transportation and set up？

 

[Richard Santos]

You can't have true all aspect stealth with vertical slabs.

you can’t get away from having some slabs. You already have to have to have some horizontal slab for lift.

 

[Blitzo]

Is that meant to depict all moving wing tip that function as control surfaces, or do those wing tip simply detach for ease of model transportation and set up？

No need to read that much into it..

 

[Andy1974]

you can’t get away from having some slabs. You already have to have to have some horizontal slab for lift.

Which is probably going to be detectable from above, eg by satellite.

 

[Deino]

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[Atomicfrog]

Including Super Cruise ?

Concorde was supercruising with a thrust ratio of 0.38... and the old english electric lightning with a thrust ratio of a 0.8. Why not ? It's all about drag. 6th generation fighter without tail will have an advantage in drag reduction.

 

[siegecrossbow]

A sixth generation fighter aircraft design under study by 611.

 

[Tirdent]

Concorde was supercruising with a thrust ratio of 0.38... and the old english electric lightning with a thrust ratio of a 0.8. Why not ? It's all about drag. 6th generation fighter without tail will have an advantage in drag reduction.

Yeah, with variable intakes and pure turbojet engine cycles. It is about thrust/drag *in supersonic flight* (not sea-level static), and WS-10 is not well-equipped to deliver sufficient dry thrust in that part of the envelope.