PLA next/6th generation fighter thread

[yeetmyboi]

Interesting controls surface indeed. I've always been partial to good ol flaps myself. Active flow controls seems like too much work to clean out the diffraction return.

Wonder if these control surfaces are seamless or not... At least alot of the RCS refinement for Bird of Prey were attributed to the use of seamless surfaces.

 

[bsdnf]

Interesting controls surface indeed. I've always been partial to good ol flaps myself. Active flow controls seems like too much work to clean out the diffraction return.

Wonder if these control surfaces are seamless or not... At least alot of the RCS refinement for Bird of Prey were attributed to the use of seamless surfaces.

brush-like flexible stealth skin cover the joint of the flap actuator? The J-20 and J-35 already have it

 

[Alfa_Particle]

When was it released, is there a link to the original sentence?

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Although, I somewhat disagree. The side intakes suggest that there are still pretty significant A/A considerations.

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

Pentagon dudes be like: "Who the fvck wakes people up at 4 in the fvcking morning after a Christmas night party??!!"

 

[Blitzo]

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Although, I somewhat disagree. The side intakes suggest that there are still pretty significant A/A considerations.

Oh it's 草根 lol

I'm not sure if he's useful as an original source tbh. If yankee or someone else starts talking then that's a different matter

 

[bsdnf]

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Although, I somewhat disagree. The side intakes suggest that there are still pretty significant A/A considerations.

At least certian high-speed maneuverability is required, otherwise there is no need for so many flap actuators

 

[siegecrossbow]

I’m of the opinion that it is more maneuverable than people give it credit for. It is a 40-50 ton beast but also have much higher thrust due to three engines.

The optimizations are for all aspect low RCS across bands, supersonic performance, high weapons load, and long range. It is pretty much a B-21 than can fly fast and hit hard.

 

[latenlazy]

I’m of the opinion that it is more maneuverable than people give it credit for. It is a 40-50 ton beast but also have much higher thrust due to three engines.

The optimizations are for all aspect low RCS across bands, supersonic performance, high weapons load, and long range. It is pretty much a B-21 than can fly fast and hit hard.

I think it will be fine kinematically. Supersonic maneuverability is an absolute advantage.

 

[Biscuits]

At least certian high-speed maneuverability is required, otherwise there is no need for so many flap actuators

It begs the question now if this thing even is fast at all.

Was thinking it will be something that looks more like all aspect stealth Mig-31. This looks like a low supercruise capable and weirdly manueverable B-21. With the F107's engine placement.

Does great sensor fusion and MUMT alone qualify it as 6th gen? No high supersonic flight or unreachable flight ceilings needed?

The fact it has a lot of seemingly maneuverability stuff build in like 2D TVC, I can't really make sense of it, I'd have earlier thought that the consensus is that subsonic maneuverability is nearly pointless.

 

[enroger]

I’m of the opinion that it is more maneuverable than people give it credit for. It is a 40-50 ton beast but also have much higher thrust due to three engines.

The optimizations are for all aspect low RCS across bands, supersonic performance, high weapons load, and long range. It is pretty much a B-21 than can fly fast and hit hard.

Yes, it has much higher thrust but I believe thrust to weight ratio will probably be kept near J-20 level. The requirements led to this monstrosity is likely to be range and payload.

Funny you mentioned B-21, I'm just thinking this thing is basically a supersonic B-21