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LKK815

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Hello, I'm currently looking for credible material/sources regarding PLA training/operations in nighttime environment. Does anyone have any recommendations or links?
 

by78

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Tangentially related. An HMV3 6x6 truck belonging to China Post.

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bsdnf

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Almost all special operations brigades will be disbanded, and the reorganization plan has not clear yet

One guess is to return to the organization before the 2016 military reform, with hundred commandos & elite unit from each SF brigade forming into one SF units for each theater.
Update: The 71st SF Brigade "Sea Sharks" very likely to be transferred to the Marine Corps, possibly as the 10th Brigade (the 9th MC Brigade was formerly the 83rd SF Brigade) More former SF Brigades may transfer to the Marine Corps in the future.
 

cookiez

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Update: The 71st SF Brigade "Sea Sharks" very likely to be transferred to the Marine Corps, possibly as the 10th Brigade (the 9th MC Brigade was formerly the 83rd SF Brigade) More former SF Brigades may transfer to the Marine Corps in the future.
Small correction (I think): 71st SF would become 11th MC since 8 through 10 would be assigned to 188th CAB, 200th CAB, and 83rd SF.
 

zyklon

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Update: The 71st SF Brigade "Sea Sharks" very likely to be transferred to the Marine Corps, possibly as the 10th Brigade (the 9th MC Brigade was formerly the 83rd SF Brigade) More former SF Brigades may transfer to the Marine Corps in the future.

Small correction (I think): 71st SF would become 11th MC since 8 through 10 would be assigned to 188th CAB, 200th CAB, and 83rd SF.

How does the PLANMC stack up against the PLAA?

Are they generally interchangeable like the USMC and US Army in most ground combat scenarios, or is one significantly more capable and/or better funded on a per capita basis than the other?

Guessing the conversion of PLAA SF/SOF brigades into PLANMC brigades imply the typical PLANMC brigade to represent a more elite formation than their PLAA line unit counterpart?
 

cookiez

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How does the PLANMC stack up against the PLAA?

Are they generally interchangeable like the USMC and US Army in most ground combat scenarios, or is one significantly more capable and/or better funded on a per capita basis than the other?

Guessing the conversion of PLAA SF/SOF brigades into PLANMC brigades imply the typical PLANMC brigade to represent a more elite formation than their PLAA line unit counterpart?

PLAGF brigades and PLANMC brigades aren’t interchangeable. While both brigades have organic combat support battalions, PLAGF brigades consist of four maneuver battalions of the same type (light, medium, heavy, amphibious, etc) whereas PLANMC brigades are essentially miniature group armies, consisting of a heavy combined arms, medium combined arms, light combined arms, and air assault battalion. Here's an example of the two brigades with similar roles:
PLAGF Amphibious Combined Arms Brigade​
PLANMC Marine Brigade​
4 amphibious combined arms battalion (The whole Type 05 and/or Type 08 family)​
1 armored company (ZTQ-15)
1 heavy combined arms battalion (ZTD-05/ZTL-11)​
1 medium combined arms battalion (ZBD-05/ZSD-05/ZBL-08/ZSL-10)
1 light combined arms battalion (Lynx ATV)
1 air assault battalion
Support units such as logistics, maintenance, 122 mm artillery, air defense, and reconnaissanceSame as PLAGF brigades, except 155 mm artillery is used at the battalion level along with 122 mm artillery.
Here, the PLAGF brigade has a more homogeneous composition focused on general-purpose capabilities and the PLANMC brigade has a more modular, multi-role structure. This is mainly because PLAGF brigades are a part of a group army which will have various types of combined arms brigades operating together alongside combat support brigades. On the other hand, PLANMC brigades are expeditionary units and may be operating alone during deployment.

Although the PLANMC is more of an elite formation, SOF brigades being converted into Marine brigades doesn’t necessarily imply this.
  • The 188th heavy combined arms brigade (formerly under 82nd group army) and the 200th light combined arms brigade (formerly under 79th group army) were line units prior to being transferred to the PLANMC.
  • The 3rd, 4th, and 5th Marine Brigades were former PLAN coastal defense units prior to being converted in 2017.
  • The 6th Marine Brigade was formerly the 77th Motorized Infantry Brigade in the PLAGF prior to being transferred in 2017.
 
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