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Taiban

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Blitzo said:
Air, naval, missile, space, EW and cyber, are all virtually equally important to each other for the missions that the PLA actually are interested in for this era.

Ground forces/land warfare is multiple notches below all of those domains (acknowledging a bit of overlap of course especially for things like EW, cyber and missile technology to a lesser extent) -- however even if one wants the PLA to put money into the most high yield capabilities and effectors in ground warfare
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What @Blitzo pointed out is absolutely correct

A 2018 Xinhua article on Chinese border operations including mountains.

Pardon my reliance on Google translation below of one of the important paragraph

"The "saw-saw" operations in which the Army plays the leading role will be replaced by elite operations supported by a large system. One is system support. Intelligence support, to accurately grasp the enemy situation, terrain, and social conditions in border areas at the first time; command support, through strategic-level decision-making, campaign-level command, and tactical-level actions, to achieve accurate and efficient combat operations and maximize the effectiveness of border operations; guarantee support, to ensure The troops maintain strong and continuous combat effectiveness under any environmental conditions. The second is smart combat. Combat operations such as node destruction, guided strikes, point-point assaults, and special operations raids have become the main styles of border operations. The third is joint victory. A coalition of unmanned and manned forces, a coalition of ground and air forces, a coalition of visible and invisible forces, and a coalition of combat support and support forces have become a new landscape for border operations."

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The Chinese contingent arrives in Singapore for the "Cooperation 2023" joint exercise.

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Papppi said:
I don't post infantry related images on Reddit because they're "boast worthy", I post them because I personally find researching and writing about them pretty interesting. It doesn't matter how they're the "lowest on the totem pole in terms of priority", I honestly don't care

There aren't much that's impressive about PLA infantry gear. In fact, compared to most major NATO militaries out there, the PLA is at least a decade behind to put it generously. I've made this pretty obvious in most of my posts and I think I've talked quite negatively about it in many instances. But if you were to compare it to just 2-4 years ago, the improvements made in such a short time period (despite drawbacks) are pretty damn noticeable ngl. What this reflects is a gradual transition and modernization of the PLA's infantry doctrine, something that I believe will continue in the foreseeable future

And please don't start with the whole decades old "strategic orientation“ thing all over again. The same argument has been used by "experts" and nationalists justify the PLA's use of unusual digital monotubes in the 2020s, lack of even flack armor in the 2015s, issuing of 50s era Type-65 "liberation shoes" to frontline units in the 2010s, and pretty much every existing problem related to infantry gear in the last twenty years. If a fighting force with the second biggest budget in the world can't even properly equip it's infantrymen, then there really ain't much to say
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Whenever infantry units from the PLA are deployed to active front line zones, they have world class equipment. Most units that are on standby during peacetime only get older surplus gear due to cost/manufacturing reasons. China can rapidly amp up the gear production during wartime, but during peacetime, it only needs 100 000 if not even less fully equipped infantry. These being the ones deployed on UN missions and/or overseas roles.

If you compare the non-actively deployed units of the PLA with the elite expeditionary US or UK forces, they might indeed be a decade behind in infantry gear, but that's not the role they play. If you want to compare them to their equivalents in NATO, you should rather compare them to the units of the US national guard and the NATO equipped units of the AFU. They would be roughly equal in terms of individual kit.

The goal of the bulk of units in the PLA is territorial defense within China itself. They only need to be better equipped than any potential separatist/terrorist militia, be able to create defenses through high ISR availablility and weight of numbers.
 
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Biscuits said:
Whenever infantry units from the PLA are deployed to active front line zones, they have world class equipment. Most units that are on standby during peacetime only get older surplus gear due to cost/manufacturing reasons. China can rapidly amp up the gear production during wartime, but during peacetime, it only needs 100 000 if not even less fully equipped infantry. These being the ones deployed on UN missions and/or overseas roles.

If you compare the non-actively deployed units of the PLA with the elite expeditionary US or UK forces, they might indeed be a decade behind in infantry gear, but that's not the role they play. If you want to compare them to their equivalents in NATO, you should rather compare them to the units of the US national guard and the NATO equipped units of the AFU. They would be roughly equal in terms of individual kit.

The goal of the bulk of units in the PLA is territorial defense within China itself. They only need to be better equipped than any potential separatist/terrorist militia, be able to create defenses through high ISR availablility and weight of numbers.
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I think the whole PLAGF will be world class equipped in the right time, people tend to forget that China spends 1.2% of GDP on a military, while the modernization is still not completed and China has their on prorities.
 
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Jiang ZeminFanboy said:
I think the whole PLAGF will be world class equipped in the right time, people tend to forget that China spends 1.2% of GDP on a military, while the modernization is still not completed and China has their on prorities.
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Probably, but there is not that much need right now. China is not using anywhere near all it's troops in high risk deployment.

For the likes of India or on the Korean peninsula, the handful of extremely well equipped divisions is more than enough as a spearhead, while units equipped more to the standards of territorial defense can garrison captured areas if the need for extra hands arises.

When it comes to defending it's East against an American/nato attack, air and naval will do most of the work, and China will have time to ramp up war production to equip territorial units, all while these units are still able to use the full extent of the ISR network and create formidable defense lines against American and their allied invaders.
 
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