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Biscuits

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I mean, Iraq was set up for failure. They were a former US client state, which means their command structure was absolutely riddled with spies. That fact alone would make them lose. Having mid and high tier equipment consisting from monkey models of the lowest end stuff China made, such as Type 62 and 59, did not help either. But that may not be as damning as having a complete lack of functioning command.

So all in all, Iraq was maybe as comparable to China back then as Mexico is comparable to USA in terms of military might. They use some similar stuff at some levels., and that's it.

But that said, Iraq likely showed China a perfect example of how the central forces of a large empire could wipe out a renegade outlying province with minimal losses and minimal international attention. I would guess that almost all Taiwan contingency plans derive heavily from similar style of attacks as US did against Iraq. Including the infiltration of command, which is highly applicable in the case of ROC.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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I mean, Iraq was set up for failure. They were a former US client state, which means their command structure was absolutely riddled with spies. That fact alone would make them lose. Having mid and high tier equipment consisting from monkey models of the lowest end stuff China made, such as Type 62 and 59, did not help either. But that may not be as damning as having a complete lack of functioning command.

So all in all, Iraq was maybe as comparable to China back then as Mexico is comparable to USA in terms of military might. They use some similar stuff at some levels., and that's it.

But that said, Iraq likely showed China a perfect example of how the central forces of a large empire could wipe out a renegade outlying province with minimal losses and minimal international attention. I would guess that almost all Taiwan contingency plans derive heavily from similar style of attacks as US did against Iraq. Including the infiltration of command, which is highly applicable in the case of ROC.
All of what you wrote and you add one of the most idiotic and arrogant S.O.B. who fashioned himself as some sort of military genius a.k.a. Saddam Hussein by allowing America to essentially train, adapt, acclimatize their forces, hone their doctrine, strategy and tactical approach in fighting his forces while his forces was just waiting around like a bunch of retards. Who allows your enemy to fully equipped itself, train etc. then fully expecting to win or come out on top?

He should not have allowed to have the U.S. and her allies to set up shop and made them comfortable. Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf and the American officer corps were pleasantly surprised of Saddam's foolish decision but hey it was his funeral. Saddam and Trump have the same arrogant assumptions about their so-called talent.
 

by78

General
The Chinese character inside the white circle says "training", so these are training launchers for PF98A unguided rockets, likely with inert warheads.

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Biscuits

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All of what you wrote and you add one of the most idiotic and arrogant S.O.B. who fashioned himself as some sort of military genius a.k.a. Saddam Hussein by allowing America to essentially train, adapt, acclimatize their forces, hone their doctrine, strategy and tactical approach in fighting his forces while his forces was just waiting around like a bunch of retards. Who allows your enemy to fully equipped itself, train etc. then fully expecting to win or come out on top?

He should not have allowed to have the U.S. and her allies to set up shop and made them comfortable. Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf and the American officer corps were pleasantly surprised of Saddam's foolish decision but hey it was his funeral. Saddam and Trump have the same arrogant assumptions about their so-called talent.
Likely this is something China could do in regards to Taiwan as well. Use its influence to ensure that the political brass will be morons.

One option is obviously a pro-peaceful settlement leader. However, another choice might be a pro-war leader but one that is a brash and talentless loudmouth.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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@ACuriousPLAFan did you get the chance to finish reading the above article that @Taiban was kind enough to link? What is your take on the author's premise and opinion on the matter with regards to the NCO training, retention, education and focus of the PLA in comparison or contrast to that of the American example.
I'm not really knowledgable on matters like this, so I'm just reading through.
 
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