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Dunno. Obviously this has naval capabilities but I cant see why the army wouldnt use it as well
Its not like only the navy is in danger of hypersonics.
PLA has 5 (major) branches, what are you talking about?
EDIT: what are you BOTH talking about, is this thread called PLAGF-only news?
Chill we are just having a normal conversation, no need to start panicking...
Obviously this development is mainly for PLAN but i dont see why the PLAGF wouldnt be also interested
Btw It would be interesting to see its ammo management system, how many targets it can practically engage per minute, accuracy, stabilization etc
915m/s will be the standard HE round. The DART is a sub calibre round with a muzzle velocity of 1,100m/s
1,100m/s is similar to most CIWS rounds.
So if the DART projo is considered too slow, then so would almost all CIWS?
The DART/STRALES was tested in 2014 against supersonic targets. No they don't operate Supersonic AShM but they have had access to supersonic target drones since the 1960s. Target drones that simulate sea skimmers at M2.5+ and diving ballistic targets at M4~5
I hope that's good enough for you?
My 2c is that CIWS are the low hanging fruits, easy and effective tech that is quick to push out. If we take the USN as an example, projectile based CIWS predated missile based short ranged anti-missile defenses. First comes the CIWS then the RAM.
My take on the DART/STRALES, it is not actually similar to the projectile spitting CIWS but is more akin to a RAM system. The DART is really a CLOS guided missile that is post rocket burn out. Okay, the kinematics aren't quite as good as a missile but if it walks like a missile, talks like a missile, it is a missile.
I agree.
If you have a main gun, budget allowing, why not dual purpose it? 2 systems engaging an incoming target can only increase your PKill right?
If you have space on the platform, I'd say go for all 3 - missile based, guided main gun, unguided CIWS. The more layers you have to your AD onion, the more you're gonna make your opponent tear up trying to peel it.
Intercepting AT RANGE - The further away a missile is, the more time it has to manuver and avoid a shell.
By the way has there been any indication that due to the Indian skirmish last year, and with high tensions on the border, that the PLAGF will (or already has) be allocated more money to increase its capabilities?
Obviously the PLAN and PLAAF has taken priority in the past years which resulted in the PLAGF modernising its capabilities relatively slower.
Maybe this Indian skirmish and the prospect of now permantly having to seriously worry about India iniatiating any moves on their border, the PLAGF might be given more attention and resources to fight off any India's attempts at changing the status quo on their border
Obviously the PLAN and PLAAF has taken priority in the past years which resulted in the PLAGF modernising its capabilities relatively slower.
Maybe this Indian skirmish and the prospect of now permantly having to seriously worry about India iniatiating any moves on their border, the PLAGF might be given more attention and resources to fight off any India's attempts at changing the status quo on their border
I don't know about them being given more budget but I do know they are given the new armor and camos as well as vehicles. I think the new gun is also being deployed there.
No put a nuclear cruise missile launcher there.
Not disputing that. It's a given that the longer the ToF, the harder it'll be to hit anything with dumb projos.
BUT ....
DART is a guided projectile. CLOS riding on a Ka-Band RF beam. Looks like this ...
Should be a whole lot easier intercepting at range when the projectile can maneuver and track the target (like a missile).