PLA Anti-Air Missile (SAM) systems

gelgoog

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Tor missile system acquitted itself well in several campaigns by now including Syria, and Ukraine.
This HQ-17 system with improved Chinese AESA radar should have even better characteristics.
It remains to be seen how these systems will cope with the next generation of low end attack drones however.
I am talking about systems like the Turkish Kızılelma which can carry longer range land attack missiles.

Already we are seeing a shift in Russian technology with the future Ka-52M helicopter upgrade having 16km range ATGMs which double the range so the helicopter can operate outside range of MANPADS. If the next gen drones get similar ATGMs then we will have to see an increase in range of short range air to air systems like Tor to compensate.
 

luosifen

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Taken from this video footage I'm assuming, attached to 78th Group Army:

 

Totoro

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Aside for the new missile canisters, the biggest difference is what seems to be an additional axle. Of course, the whole under chassis is a bit different, with the rear two axles being closer together now.

The new missile canisters strongly suggest a missile with much smaller strakes, if it has strakes at all, anymore. Furthermore, steering fins are now fully folded next to the missile body, when in canister. I guess I'm sort of expecting something similar to 9M317M missile to be inside those canisters.

Performance differences are impossible to ascertain. Like range, flight ceiling etc. I guess if only one thing is changed, though, it'd be the addition of an active radar seeker. Those just seem to be proliferating everywhere, due to ever lower price tags, even in shorter range class missiles than HQ-16. So it'd be high time HQ-16 gets those as well.
 
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