PLA Anti-Air Missile (SAM) systems

ougoah

Brigadier
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The BrahMos was tracked by radar as soon as it was launched, some 100 km within India, and all the way to its impact point, as confirmed by ISPR. Just because Pakistan chose not to shoot down a low-flying, likely supersonic missile doesn't mean it was lacking the capability to do so.


Yeah lol it's the intelligence of bhakts and their desperation to flip the humiliation and embarrassment onto Pakistan.

Just because Pakistan didn't fire anything to intercept it, they assume they did not even detect it lol.

If it were a barrage, I think Pakistan may have assumed the worst and put their nuclear forces on the ready if not also in the air, If it were a barrage they would also intercept them. Since it was one single non-ballistic missile, Pakistan put nuclear forces on alert as you would but certainly not launching anything. You don't launch all your nuclear weapons because you see one thing flying at you at around Mach 3.

Also no intercept in case it was a trap. There is no way to know before the object landed what it was. That isn't worth switching your SAMs on and all your radars so the enemy can soak up those emissions and signals, not to mention expose your command and operative processes.

There is extremely extremely limited damage one missile could do. If it's nuclear, it was one missile and response would be in full. India ends if it was nuclear. If it were conventionally armed, Pakistan could retaliate according to its choosing and have every justification for however Pakistan chooses to escalate without any nation being able to condemn Pakistan for responding.

If it were limited in damage as it has been, then Pakistan still reveals nothing of its command and operations along with equipment performance, signals, and capabilities, and still retains some casus belli.

Net results:
  • Now Pakistan has a significant diplomatic upper hand.
  • Pakistan retains a right to respond and escalate militarily ie any military action from Pakistan from simple shelling or specifically targeted attacks are at least more justifiable.
  • Pakistan revealed nothing from their side while India revealed some potential performance indicators and details of a Brahmos missile.
  • India has a humiliating episode due to alleged poor command structure and/or poor equipment control and function (whether it was self launched, accidental launch, weapons test failure, navigation failure etc or utterly poor training or rogue actors whatever the excuse and reason).
  • Other observers lose some faith in India's ability to control their weapons and/or personnel and regard them as more incompetent and unprofessional.
  • Indian fake news brigade and desperation exposed more yet again to more observers.
 

Jiang ZeminFanboy

Senior Member
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Do we have an estimations of the cost of Chinese newest SAM like HQ-16, HQ-9, HQ-22, compared to Russian S-300, S-400 China got? I remember reading somewhere that hQ-9 is expensive.
 

ascii

New Member
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Do we have an estimations of the cost of Chinese newest SAM like HQ-16, HQ-9, HQ-22, compared to Russian S-300, S-400 China got? I remember reading somewhere that hQ-9 is expensive.

Are you sure? Please search "Turkey HQ-9".
 

Jason_

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The vanilla HQ-9 is SARH/TVM guided like the S-400's 48N6, and its therefore relatively affordable. But the HQ-9B is active radar homing and much more expensive. HQ-22 is also SARH/TVM and is now the low end PLAAF operated SAM.
 

antiterror13

Brigadier
The vanilla HQ-9 is SARH/TVM guided like the S-400's 48N6, and its therefore relatively affordable. But the HQ-9B is active radar homing and much more expensive. HQ-22 is also SARH/TVM and is now the low end PLAAF operated SAM.

How about HQ-9A ? still SARH/TVM ?

I hope China soon upgraded all HQ-9/A (with SARH/TVM) to HQ-9B
 

ascii

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The vanilla HQ-9 is SARH/TVM guided like the S-400's 48N6, and its therefore relatively affordable. But the HQ-9B is active radar homing and much more expensive. HQ-22 is also SARH/TVM and is now the low end PLAAF operated SAM.

HQ-9 never using SARH/TVM, it was designed with ARH at the begining. HQ-9B has dual-pulse rocket motor, and FCR is upgrading to AESA. HQ-22 is an alternative model of HQ-12.
 
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