The further the range the less ballistic missiles are available.
PLA Anti-Air Missile (SAM) systems
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How do you know sm-3/6 can't intercept ballistic missile targets? The test targets are said to replicate a similar threat. Even if the pk is only like 50% it's better than nothing.Calling me unprofessional while you tout s300 and s400 BMD capabilities? Lol okay. Just because I didn't want to quote the designation because it's all rumours just like s500, doesn't mean it isn't there. If s500 is taken for granted as premier BMD in the series which is all based off rumours, then why not believe hq26 hq29 and dn3? At least China proved even 12 years ago it has ability to perfectly intercept one of the fastest moving small satellites in orbit... on the first attempt and test of the new asat missile. A capability Russia hasn't even made a big claim about being able to do yet and still they keep talking up their new weapons so it's not exactly for secrecy sake.
Seems like you understand eff all about ABM if you take s500 claims at face value but dismiss all others. Btw I got your designation numbers now. They are called hq26 and hq29. Been around for close to a decade now... As leaks even. Probably retired and replaced by better systems already.
For the US? Sm3 and sm6? They're certainly great missile but useful against only North Korea, India, Pakistan out of those nations with ICBM and SLBMs. Against latest China and Russia delivery systems, they may as well not bother. It's not even a matter of numbers anymore. This is exactly why Russia and China don't bother much about BMD. They can't defend against their only main nuclear rival the USA. Against India, what China's got is plenty enough.
No one claimed China had exclusivity on ground based midcourse defense
China doesn't field r37 and R33 because they've got much better stuff. Why wouldn't they buy these missiles if they were so good? The Chinese just keep thing sunder wraps for longer. Recall pakda super duper exoatmospheric bomber?? One reveals all but delivers low. The other just doesn't go around showing everything. Btw Chinese pl21 and plxx are the R34 range equivalents. Again, because we don't know the designation, it doesn't mean these missiles don't exist. Looks like China's already fielded a zircon like hypersonic ashm missile while Russians and Indians are drawing their's up and hyping up their renderings to everyone
How are stingers practically useless? Also the SA incident was because the patriot battery is not a 360 degree system and was attacked from an unexpected direction. As for small drones the US has lasers and jammers like the one on USS Pounce.
How would that happen? We don't know how well the radar would do only that f-22/35 are within the same airspace and even su-57 did a photo op there.would it serve China's interests to send Syria more of their advanced AA defense systems, including anti-stealth ones?
China can then have an opportunity to test their stuffs under actual combat conditions, and make improvements accordingly.
OTOH, Russia may not like the idea of China interfering in their sphere of influence / back yard.
And China has a cordial relationship with Israel as well, so Syria may not be worth it to upset the relationship.
having said that, many people are quite upset by the bully tactics of Israel which just bombs its opponents at will and with impunity.
I sort of sympathizing with Syria, as it is just like China at late Qing era.
I myself would love to see a F35 in Israeli colors shot down by a Chinese SAM.
Have stingers been successful against swarms of cruise missiles and drones? Have lasers been proven?
Lasers are just starting to be tested but they did field one on the USS pounce in 2014. It seems to be able to deal with small uavs and boats are relatively short ranges. Stingers have been used in combat and its an older proven design. I don't see why the latest iteration of stinger would all of a sudden not work. Thankfully there hasn't been a scenario of massed missiles and drones in combat against the US.
If stingers were effective against mass attacks SA would have just used them instead
Its not that simple. Firstly you are not going to have troops on alert all the time in your borders unless you are prepared for something. Iran and their proxies caught the saudis off guard and attacked from an unexpected direction. Your logic is because saudi arabia didn't use stinger that stinger can't down drones and cruise missiles? Someone better inform the US about this lol. Stinger is used on the avenger system and the forthcoming stryker shorad variant that may also use aim-9x.
I didn’t say they can’t shoot down drones and missiles don’t put words in my mouth. Drone or missile attacks can come from any direction there shouldn't be any unexpected directions. Facts speak for themselves if they are not used then they are not used for a good reason.