PLA AEW&C, SIGINT, EW and MPA thread

[maglomanic]

thanks for the photos Maglomanic. btw, man, I never asked what you would like to be referred as? Mag, Maglomanic, Maggy?

btw, you can just refer to me as Feng, since that's my real name.

No prob
You can call me any of those , no worries. It's supposedly something that i derived from Megalomaniac (crazy about Incubus song ).

By the way my name is Farooq. I always thought your name is Phuang if that makes sense ..lol.

As for the photos, the first two seems to be taken from China, since you can still see the pla emblem (or whatever you call it).

Yeah what you r saying makes sense. I just noticed the chinese soldier standing next to plane.

The bottom 2 should be from Pakistan, since the pla emblem are referred. I have a feeling that Pakistan will get a real big discount on this if it does decide to buy it? Why? Aside from China's usual friendship with Pakistan, PAF will almost be the first user for this product. If things go well, there will be reasons for other countries to also put in orders. I mean if China is trying to sell something that nobody is using, then it would be extremely difficult to convince other countries to put in an order.

Also, if this does go through, then I forsee a national defensive network setup by China for Pakistan. Pakistan has already bought some YLC-2 radars and YLC-6 radar. The next step could be some long and short range SAM systems networked together. And possibly set up a C4ISR system similar to the Chinese one. But that's just my opinion.

I totally agree with your assesment of combined integrated network. But i am a bit skeptical of PAF buying this AWACS along with Erieye. Maybe when pakistan tries to induct J-10 at the same time they will induct a couple of those.

I have come across another theory though which seems plausible too. Probably Pakistan and China are trying to pit and test this system against NATO systems in Afghanistan and core Indian systems pitted against PAF on eastern border. If i am not wrong china has been using it's new AWACS to do lots of ELINT against US / Japanese assets. It would make sense for them to test it against NATO activities and southern rival India.

Just my two cents.


P.S if i m not wrong Pakistan already has C4I. I am not sure if it is any differnt from C4ISR. Pakistan has reportedly helped Bangladesh in implementing a similar system.

 

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More Pics from Pakistan:

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the picture show that aircraft is still being develop,notice the absent of multiply blade antenna ,(each radar display consule is provided with independent jam proof radio (UHF) equipment to communcate with the friendly aircraft) ,link-W(?)( Chinese equivalent of Link-16) and ESM (E-3C ALR-1 ESM capapble of tracking airborne and surface emitter passively)

 

[maglomanic]

the picture show that aircraft is still being develop,notice the absent of multiply blade antenna ,(each radar display consule is provided with independent jam proof radio (UHF) equipment to communcate with the friendly aircraft) ,link-W(?)( Chinese equivalent of Link-16) and ESM (E-3C ALR-1 ESM capapble of tracking airborne and surface emitter passively)

Sorry but i just couldnt figure out which blades are you talking about and where are they missing from? Can you please point them out

 

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Sorry but i just couldnt figure out which blades are you talking about and where are they missing from? Can you please point them out

I mean blade antenna,usually associate with UHF

 

[tphuang]

P.S if i m not wrong Pakistan already has C4I. I am not sure if it is any differnt from C4ISR. Pakistan has reportedly helped Bangladesh in implementing a similar system.

i'm sure Pakistan does, but there are plenty of improvements that you can make to your C4I.

 

[tphuang]

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Talking to private TV channel on Wednesday, General Ahsan-ul-Haq further said Pakistan has sought help from China in field of Space Technology adding that JF 17 thunder aircrafts are being prepared with the joint collaboration of China and Pakistan Air Force (PAF).

Pakistan and China are taking initiatives to boost and strengthen the defence and security relations between them besides expanding bilateral relations, he added. He said negotiations are underway with China also for obtaining of F-10 warplanes.

China has made an "AWACS" airplane after America and now these days one of these aircrafts is in Pakistan adding we are reviewing manufacturing and functioning of AWACS plane after which negotiations would be held with China for their acquirement. The progress is underway to obtain 22 frigates for Pakistan Navy, he added.

Following visit of President Gen Pervez Musharraf to China, cooperation in Defence and security fields has been expedited.

Chairman JCSC Ahsan-ul-Haq expressed his gratitude for China's assistance in fields of defence and security.

Again, I'm amused at the kind of terrible journalism in these PakTribune defence related articles. 22 frigates? They mean F-22P? And this is even discounting the original reference of "OWAX" to "AWACS" in some of the other articles.

 

[maglomanic]

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Again, I'm amused at the kind of terrible journalism in these PakTribune defence related articles. 22 frigates? They mean F-22P? And this is even discounting the original reference of "OWAX" to "AWACS" in some of the other articles.

I have only seen that Indian defense magzine IDRAW with 'OWAX'. However i have to completely agree with you that journalist in Pakistan having no knowledge on defense matters are reporting. It's really appaling.

 

[tphuang]

I have only seen that Indian defense magzine IDRAW with 'OWAX'. However i have to completely agree with you that journalist in Pakistan having no knowledge on defense matters are reporting. It's really appaling.

I think they got it from this article

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As I said on PDF. I truly do see this as Pakistani military looking to set up China's defensive network in its own backyard. And considering the amount of resources China has put into this, I'd say that's a wise choice.

 

[maglomanic]

As I said on PDF. I truly do see this as Pakistani military looking to set up China's defensive network in its own backyard. And considering the amount of resources China has put into this, I'd say that's a wise choice.

That would make perfect sense, since After Gawadar becomes operational China's western part will be economically integrated into Pakistan. There was another report i guess on this forum which said China already has intelligence posts in Gawadar region. Lets see when we see chinese fighters and Battleships in that region

 

[ikaleem]

The credibility of the newspaper is highly suspect...this is not a pakistani newspaper but rather a newspaper that we get here in Canada and US sold free in most indian or pakistani grocery stores. All these news papers have is a lot of adds and news items taken from different newspapers through internet and crudely re-produced.
I am not disputing that some the level of journalism in pakistan is very good but again would advise against believing anything posted in any of these rag newspapers