Pilots Taining Duration

Delbert

Junior Member
I just wonder how long does the pilots of PLAAF trains?

The total number of hours spent by each pilot in training a year?

Anybody have an answer or idea?
 

crobato

Colonel
VIP Professional
When General Pace visited the PLAAF 1st Division HQ, the article describing the visit referred to 140 hours. In November 2006, when a J-7 pilot lost his life as he cleared his malfunctioning plane over a populated area, the newspaper article stated he had 140 flight hours for the year and 90% in reaching his allotment. I would say a range of around 140 to 160 hours.
 

Delbert

Junior Member
Ah I see... Thanks for the info.

With this data, I can say that the Airforce of China is as good as the US airforce. Who has around 150-200 hours of flight per year, base on my research data.
 

crobato

Colonel
VIP Professional
US air force should be around 180 to 220 hours, but that's not as important as having actual combat experience, well for bombing anyway, in Iraq and Afghanistan.
 

Delbert

Junior Member
Hmmm... The latest combat experience I can see with the USAF was the bombing only as you have said...

Does the PLAAF uses mock air to air combat during trainings? Which includes distance and dog fights.
 

Totoro

Major
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Yes, PLAAF has been using aggressor squadron training for some years now. (a decade?) Both BVR and WVR combat is included. China has put great emphasis on training in the last decade or so, in the effort to catch up with the west. It is safe to assume they've at least managed to come close in quality of their pilots. (80/20% rule, first 80% always comes more easely)
 

Delbert

Junior Member
Even though I know it wouldn't be nice for a war, but sometimes I am thinking of having a USAF vs. PLAAF air combat using the modern fighter planes like (F-15, F-16,F-18 vs. J-10, SU-27,SU-30... (I just wonder who's pilot is better) :p
 

PrOeLiTeZ

Junior Member
Registered Member
When General Pace visited the PLAAF 1st Division HQ, the article describing the visit referred to 140 hours. In November 2006, when a J-7 pilot lost his life as he cleared his malfunctioning plane over a populated area, the newspaper article stated he had 140 flight hours for the year and 90% in reaching his allotment. I would say a range of around 140 to 160 hours.
Really??? I thought that J-7/J-8 pilots had 150-170hours while the J-10/J-11 pilots 170-190hours. From articles I've been reading coming from mainland China the J-10/J-11 pilots recieve an extra 20hours ontop of whatever J-7/J-8 pilots were getting. As sources cited that J-10/J-11 pilots are classified as the elites of PLAAF.

No need for war a mock up battle will be more that satisfying.
Match Up:
F-16 vs J-10: Lightweight
F-18 vs J-8: Midweight [Not really a midweight fighter but closes China has]
F-15 vs J-11: Heaveyweight
 
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daveman

New Member
The answer would be not long enough.

The feats and skills of Russian pilots are well known on the international stage; the technological superiority of American fighter jets are also indisputable.

But the skills of Chinese pilots?

The words skill and Chinese pilots don't show up in the same sentence.

I have serious concerns about the abilities of Chinese pilots, either flying bombers or fighter jets.
 

crobato

Colonel
VIP Professional
Really??? I thought that J-7/J-8 pilots had 150-170hours will the J-10/J-11 pilots 170-190hours. From articles I've been reading coming from mainland China the J-10/J-11 pilots recieve an extra 20hours ontop of whatever J-7/J-8 pilots were getting. As sources cited that J-10/J-11 pilots are classified as the elites of PLAAF.

No need for war a mock up battle will be more that satisfying.
Match Up:
F-16 vs J-10: Lightweight
F-18 vs J-8: Midweight [Not really a midweight fighter but closes China has]
F-15 vs J-11: Heaveyweight

Well we did catch an image of a PLAAF pilot's certificate from a pilot assigned to the 2nd Division. Adding up the hours at points of certification and the dates, I got like 185 hours a year.
 
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