Pentagon accuses Chinese vessels of harassing U.S. ship

bd popeye

The Last Jedi
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Deploying this device would imply Chinese consent to playing cat and mouse games with the US on a long term basis.
I'm of the opinion that China does not want to waste time and resources in such matters, therefore they take different actions to try to permanently discourage the US from provoking China to play their games.

exactly..What you described is how the game was and is played. The US and USSR participated in many such "games".
 

xywdx

Junior Member
exactly..What you described is how the game was and is played. The US and USSR participated in many such "games".

The US and USSR were more equal in power, China is becoming stronger but still has a long way to go, this limits her options.

The US has a lot of experience from the cold war so they have better plans on how to handle these games(both militarily and politically) and more advanced technology.

In short, China knows she currently cannot compete with the US in these games, therefore she attempts to "harass" the US to try and keep some space between the two nations.

This is different from the cold war situation where the USSR and US encouraged direct military contact to display their power and collect data.
 

crobato

Colonel
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Who is to say attention span is short.

When this incident with the Impeccable came out, everyone simply forgotten that issue about the Russians shooting some Chinese ship and sinking it, an incident that caused loss of life. Or that in the end of February, a PLAN destroyer actually exercised with a USN carrier off the waters in Pakistan's exercise, which is another first.

When the J-10B pics comes out, this thread just died.

Anyway, it looks both the US and China have communicated intentions to end the stand off and begin all sorts of military interactions again. And apparently, Admiral Keating got replaced.
 

bladerunner

Banned Idiot
Who is to say attention span is short.

When this incident with the Impeccable came out, everyone simply forgotten that issue about the Russians shooting some Chinese ship and sinking it, an incident that caused loss of life. Or that in the end of February, a PLAN destroyer actually exercised with a USN carrier off the waters in Pakistan's exercise, which is another first.

When the J-10B pics comes out, this thread just died.

Anyway, it looks both the US and China have communicated intentions to end the stand off and begin all sorts of military interactions again. And apparently, Admiral Keating got replaced.

What did Keating do to get the shove?
 

crobato

Colonel
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Admiral Robert Willard is replacing him. I would agree what Desperado6 said in the CDF, the timing is too coincidental.
 

maozedong

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Sino-US sea standoff appears to have ended

The Chinese military is ready to call an end to the standoff with the United States in the South China Sea after diplomatic efforts have reduced tensions, defense sources said on condition of anonymity.

Top commanders do not have plans to increase the military presence in the South China Sea following a confrontation earlier this month between a US spy ship and five Chinese vessels, naval sources told China Daily, also on condition of anonymity.

The US defense chief said on Wednesday that diplomatic exchanges since the confrontation would prevent a similar incident to that of March 8.

Military analysts agreed that it is time to leave the dispute behind and move on with more important issues concerning Sino-US relations.

"It is time to call an end to it," said Li Jie, a senior naval researcher at the Chinese Navy's Military Academy.

"It might be that the US military wanted to flex its muscles, but the Barack Obama administration managed to bring the situation under control for the good of both countries."

Zhang Tuosheng, director of the China Foundation for International and Strategic Studies, said that neither Beijing nor Washington wants to "blow it up (the confrontation)".

"This is because both sides have so many areas they share interests in," Zhang told China Daily.

US Defense Secretary Robert Gates also played down the risk of new military challenges.

Gates told reporters at a Pentagon briefing that he also does not believe "aggressive" Chinese behavior against US Navy surveillance vessels in the South China Sea suggests Beijing wants to force the US Pacific fleet from the region.

The USNS Impeccable, a US 7th Fleet surveillance ship designed to search for underwater threats including submarines, was about 120 km south of China's southern-most province of Hainan when the standoff with the Chinese vessels started.

Chinese naval officers said the US vessel was spying and hunting for data related to China's submarines within Chinese maritime territory and exclusive economic zone.

The US Navy claimed the incident was the latest in a series of "increasingly aggressive" encounters between US surveillance ships and Chinese craft including naval ships, patrol boats and surveillance planes.

The incident was the most serious episode between the two nations since 2001 when a US spy plane collided midair with a Chinese fighter jet near the same area.

But Gates said: "I don't think that they're trying to push the 7th Fleet out of that area. And I hope, based on the diplomatic exchanges that have taken place since the aggressive acts against the Impeccable ... that there won't be a repetition of this."

That would make it unnecessary for the US Navy to assign more warship escorts to its surveillance vessels, he said
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The US Navy last week dispatched one of the world's most advanced destroyers to the area to escort the Impeccable, which continues to be in the vicinity.

Gates yesterday also announced the nomination of Admiral Robert Willard, head of the US Pacific Fleet, to replace Timothy Keating as the commander of US Pacific command.

Chinese analysts said it is a routine posting and that Willard has experience in the Asia-Pacific region. 

(China Daily March 20, 2009)

above article from China official news paper < China Daily >, I agree with Crobato,I think this insident should be end.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Keating seems to be fumbling lately. He also made provocative remarks towards the North Koreans about shooting down their rocket launching their satellite. He had to later clarify his remarks.
 

bd popeye

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Admiral Robert Willard is replacing him. I would agree what Desperado6 said in the CDF, the timing is too coincidental.

ADM Keating is not being given the boot. No way. The normal rotation for a flag position except the JCS(Joint Chiefs of Staff) is two years. He took over US Pacific Command 26 March 2007. By my reckoning that's almost two years.
 

Mr T

Senior Member
Thanks for that information, Popeye. Appears to be common-sense to me that he is leaving due to normal rotation periods.

If he had been forced out I'm sure the papers would have been full with stories about that - can't see them anywhere.
 

bd popeye

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Thanks for that information, Popeye. Appears to be common-sense to me that he is leaving due to normal rotation periods.

If he had been forced out I'm sure the papers would have been full with stories about that - can't see them anywhere.

You are welcome. I can see in this circumstance how people can jump to conclusions.
 
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