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Tri Nitro Toluene

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One of the biggest mistakes which has been done by many people who have analysed this video is that they have failed to notice that at 19s, there are actually two missiles flying.
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Please move the video frame by frame and you will see these two missiles. This clearly shows that they have done a very shoddy job of mixing two separate films to make this clip.
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BoggedDown

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The video is a time lapsed videography and quality is not that good, specially for far way shots so color distortions. Also people are posting-reposting of copies of video file which also degrade quality.

Look at this news from daily mail and it got two good quality still pictures of missile launch.
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Tri Nitro Toluene

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The video is a time lapsed videography and quality is not that good, specially for far way shots so color distortions. Also people are posting-reposting of copies of video file which also degrade quality.

Look at this news from daily mail and it got two good quality still pictures of missile launch.
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The degrade quality doesn't change the missile color, in fact movie quality is biased.
Launch separately, mid flight separate and then, hitting target separate, they must have shown some intermediate, I means shifting from one stage to other. I already raised the frame issue, two missiles are there clearly in pictures;
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Two possibilities:
  1. They mixed up video frame with LACM test.
  2. Pakistan has made world's first missile which can create it's electronic illusion to confuse enemy Radar and anti missile systems.:D
I think for a research budget of just $2 billions of Pakistan, I must pick first one only.
But I agreed that quality of video was indeed a great issue for us. At least, they must have made a continuous video.:p

Look at Nirbhay missile, you can even read the words written.
this is how you chase & shoot video of a cruise missile from a fighter aircraft.;)

It's not complete clip though, target was there in sea.
Nirbhay 02 Mission Video new
 

Tri Nitro Toluene

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The video is a time lapsed videography and quality is not that good, specially for far way shots so color distortions. Also people are posting-reposting of copies of video file which also degrade quality.

Look at this news from daily mail and it got two good quality still pictures of missile launch.
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I don't mean to argue, just ... it's hard to believe the Military would be such a bunch of Clowns

either way, fanbois are now sure bragging about it :)
new pic released by ISPR

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while going through the video found something interesting

then compared with this pic and found it absent in the pic

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Trajectory is itself not matching!
 
now I read Pakistan Reveals Test of Submarine-Launched Missile
Pakistan on Monday publicly acknowledged for the first time it had successfully tested a submarine-launched cruise missile.

The date of the test is unclear, and the trial may have been carried out beforehand. Nevertheless, according to a statement by Inter-Services Public Relations, the military’s media branch, the test of the 450-kilometer range Babur 3 was carried out “from an undisclosed location in the Indian Ocean” from “an underwater, mobile platform”.

The latter implies the test was carried out from one of Pakistan’s Agosta-70 or Agosta-90B submarines.

Babur 3 was stated to be a sub-launched variant of the land-based Babur 2, which was tested in December 2016 and features improved avionics and accuracy. Babur 3 features “underwater controlled propulsion and advanced guidance and navigation features, duly augmented by Global Navigation, Terrain and Scene Matching Systems.”

It was also claimed to have sea-skimming and terrain-hugging flight characteristics to evade radar detection and interception — especially with regard to future regional missile defense capabilities, a veiled reference to India’s efforts in missile technology.

A further such reference to India was made in stating that the successful development of a second-strike capability was a “manifestation of the strategy of measured response to nuclear strategies and postures being adopted in Pakistan’s neighborhood.”

Development of Babur 3 was also hailed as “a step towards [Pakistan] reinforcing policy of credible minimum deterrence.”

Mansoor Ahmed, a postdoctoral research fellow at Harvard University's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs and an expert on Pakistan’s nuclear program and delivery systems, said Babur 3 is a “significant milestone” in Pakistan’s effort to complete its nuclear triad.

“It has proven the speculation that Pakistan will not follow India’s pathway to a naval leg of the triad via nuclear submarines but opt for a more cost-effective solution tailored to its own strategic calculus and capabilities,” he said.

Combined with the very low frequency communication facility unveiled last year, Ahmed believes Pakistan’s Naval Strategic Force Command can now deploy nuclear-armed cruise missiles on its conventional submarines to ensure a credible second-strike capability.

This is likely to be fully utilized onboard the forthcoming air-independent propulsion-equipped Hangor-class submarines designed by and co-produced with China.

Ahmed further highlighted two points: that the Babur 3 can carry any type of warhead, courtesy of Pakistan’s plutonium production program, which has enabled production of miniaturized nuclear devices for its range of missiles from Babur to the Shaheen III ballistic missile that covers all of Indian territory; and that Pakistan’s sea-based deterrent “is also likely to rely on [China’s] Beidou navigation system for precision targeting.
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BoggedDown

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I was not there so I can only speculate...

The whole missile flight is not probably captured by one single camera. So there can be variation of color, speed, zooming, background etc...It looks like at least three video slices joined together... In my opinion they could have released a more professional made of better quality one but may be we will see one day. As one test fire does not make a weapon system so we will sure see more test fire of it in future.

Fans sometime make very funny video claims but the this missile test video is released by officials so have some faith... If some one does not want to believe it, that is his or her problem.
 

Tri Nitro Toluene

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Mansoor Ahmed, a postdoctoral research fellow at Harvard University's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs and an expert on Pakistan’s nuclear program and delivery systems, said Babur 3 is a “significant milestone” in Pakistan’s effort to complete its nuclear triad.
Ahmed further highlighted two points: that the Babur 3 can carry any type of warhead, courtesy of Pakistan’s plutonium production program, which has enabled production of miniaturized nuclear devices for its range of missiles from Babur to the Shaheen III ballistic missile that covers all of Indian territory; and that Pakistan’s sea-based deterrent “is also likely to rely on [China’s] Beidou navigation system for precision targeting.
That's the problem, anything to bring at "neck with "those"" must be not be unconditionally swallowable.

I don't have any personal hate for them but its causing trouble on technical ground which I'm fairly giving chance to clarify.

At least somebody post a NOTAM/NAVAREA warning. So that we can start to sort; out latter.
 
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