On the CDT, Media, and Propaganda

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nameless

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The NYT is one of sources that CDT presents.
So? Its not like NYT cannot write propaganda. They were anti Bush for those wars in IRAQ and AFG but once Obama was elected the anti war movement disappeared even though nothing has changed.

And what views are those? The ones from the "Western", HK, and Taiwan media (because that's what you're reading in the end)? Sure, you can go ahead and indict the entire Western Media, but I somehow doubt you can get a complete picture with the remaining sources. The Chinese media is not purely objective in its coverage either.
Its much more objective I would say.

No, CD's agenda is to maintain political stability, and maintain the CCP's legitimacy. I've said it before, not all aspects of CD's coverage is "propagandistic", but then that is also true of CDT. I'm merely pointing out that if you consider the CDT propaganda, then you can't really exempt CD either. If we discounted sources of information solely because they had a "political agenda" then neither of them would pass that test.
Maintaining political stability by reporting the news? Ever read their forums? There are stuff in the opinion sections that may constitute political agenda but for the rest its not. Pretty much everything in CDT is constructed as propaganda in some way, the same can not be said of CD or GT.

You'll note that CDT doesn't even publish its own pieces. It's a collection of articles from other sources. If you're saying the information from CDT is political propaganda, you're directly inculcating other sources as political propaganda, like the NYT or Bloomberg News.
Actually it does insert some text in between the articles that expresses its opinion. You are forgetting sources from Tibetan and Uyghur terrorists. Even stuff that seems neutral is spined.

And who determines truth? Certainly not any one news source, and certainly not just whom ever you say does so. Claiming what is or isn't true just based on "sources" is both illogical and presumptuous.
Use your brain, use statistics from third parties, your own calculations, from neurtal experts. If you can not see that you are being led by a string then I am sorry.

And who's to say that I have to accept the media's thinking? I can agree with a person's facts and not their arguments. The truth is anything within the news, whether intentionally propagandistic or not, is prone to be mislead unless we can think for ourselves about them. Nothing is stopping you from disagreeing with the CDT, despite how it presents itself, because you have the ability to think independently. You yourself are making a convincing case for how ineffective "media brainwashing" is if you can think independently and take in different news mediums through your protest.
Except that I do not pretend to be the average Joe. Its illogical to assume most Americans are not brainwashed in some way because a few a not.
 

nameless

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I'm not telling you what I read. I'm reiterating my point that there is no one reliable news source.

In regards to CSD, I'm merely making the point that if the CDT can be accused of being an American mouthpiece simply because the stories it presents are in line with a US perspective (if that's what you are accusing, which I am not entirely in agreement with), then the extension of that logic would be that the CSD must be a Chinese mouthpiece because it presents views that agree with China. Neither are true.

Just because they are in agreement with certain perspectives does not make them slaves to other organizations that share those perspectives.
I remember reading one article in CD regard the property price from two opposing camp of experts, you think that is more or less biased?

All sources are biased. You can't remove subjectivity from reporting.
The news itself is not biased, its the opinions that are biased.

Sure, but you seem to be implying that the content in CDT (which is really just a collection of content from other sources), is not "actual news". Does that mean Bloomberg and NYT are not "actual" news? What makes you say that?
You keep bring up Bloomberg as if its a major source on CDT, its not by a long shot. If you really wanted to read Bloomberg you would go to their website.
 

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