I wish gullible people such as you do not make pointless posts based on unsourced and unfounded claims.
North Korea Military News, Reports, Data, etc.
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I wish too like your wish in case of NK something I wish can come out in black & white last time when it happened? Though recent missile tests submarines launch frigates launch I wish you had posted them well in advance for my knowledge from reliable sources like any other more open country on these matters, if you don’t like my post just ignore it & I am waiting from your reliable post to be posted about NK well in advance not by state media
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Many hypotheses have been floated since Kim Jong-un visited the factory where the Su-35s and Su-57s are built.
Most are leaning toward a supply of components to continue the assembly of upgraded versions of the MiG-29 in the DPRK, others toward the possibility of supplying modernized Su-27s, this to make it difficult for less friendly countries to determine where they actually come from.
Some have actually suggested a "loan" and not a sale or transfer of Su-35s, but in any case, it would be difficult to assert, let alone verify, that they will be piloted by Russians.
I personally believe that if there is any help (aside from some supplies of aircraft already in service, which will therefore be camouflaged with those already in service to avoid UN accusations), it will be directed towards the development of a DPRK-licensed aircraft, which could be an advanced trainer with ground attack capabilities, or it could be a light combat aircraft similar to the SU-75, or something derived from the MiG-29/35, a well-known aircraft in the DPRK, upgraded in terms of electronics and engines.
But these are all hypotheses that Kim Jong-un could debunk in the short term, and who knows, he might surprise us as he has already done with missile systems, the navy, and the army.
All that remains is to wait.
I'm attaching an article just out of curiosity, without claiming to be a definitive statement.
We're talking about possible future North Korean combat aircraft, and today I found the link to an article that refers to news from as far back as 2015.
What the author writes are his own considerations after evaluating the little news and photos that have emerged from the DPRK. The licensed production of the MiG-29, light aircraft similar to the CESNA, and the biplane aircraft externally identical to the AN-2 are also confirmed by other sources.
He also makes claims regarding the development of a jet engine necessary to fully manufacture the MiG-29 in the DPRK. However, it seems that the DPRK already had the capacity to produce engines for the MiG-15, MiG-17, and even the MiG-19. But certainly, the development of a modern, efficient turbofan is an extremely difficult development to implement. However, 10 years have passed since that news and it is clear that the DPRK has made giant strides in the indigenous modernization of military products, this and today the renewed DPRK-Russia military friendship/alliance could give an important boost also to this hypothetical North Korean engine and consequently to the creation of a locally produced combat aircraft either as a continuation by creating a modern version of the Mig-29, or a completely new product.
This is the article,
We're talking about possible future North Korean combat aircraft, and today I found the link to an article that refers to news from as far back as 2015.
What the author writes are his own considerations after evaluating the little news and photos that have emerged from the DPRK. The licensed production of the MiG-29, light aircraft similar to the CESNA, and the biplane aircraft externally identical to the AN-2 are also confirmed by other sources.
He also makes claims regarding the development of a jet engine necessary to fully manufacture the MiG-29 in the DPRK. However, it seems that the DPRK already had the capacity to produce engines for the MiG-15, MiG-17, and even the MiG-19. But certainly, the development of a modern, efficient turbofan is an extremely difficult development to implement. However, 10 years have passed since that news and it is clear that the DPRK has made giant strides in the indigenous modernization of military products, this and today the renewed DPRK-Russia military friendship/alliance could give an important boost also to this hypothetical North Korean engine and consequently to the creation of a locally produced combat aircraft either as a continuation by creating a modern version of the Mig-29, or a completely new product.
This is the article,
I don't think there will be more Russian aircraft to North Korea. NK would want complete self sufficiency, and I doubt Russia would give that. I think what will happen is Russia will provide key industrial expertise to NK, and they will make their own stuff. This way there is less security and competition concern for both parties. Plus, aircraft design is useful for one generation, industrial expertise improvement stays forever.
I have a feeling North Korea will attempt to create a fleet of drone first before attempting to produce next gen aircraft. Mig-29 in its current form is usable, especially after their recent indigenous upgrade. They might first make a fleet of next gen drones before thinking about manned aircraft which is more complicated.
I have a feeling North Korea will attempt to create a fleet of drone first before attempting to produce next gen aircraft. Mig-29 in its current form is usable, especially after their recent indigenous upgrade. They might first make a fleet of next gen drones before thinking about manned aircraft which is more complicated.
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Iran was demonstrating the case of complete self sufficiency.
You either have airpower, or you don't. In Iranian case, very visibly, some actual fighters operating from underground could've made a substantial difference.
It isn't impossible to design high performance aircraft in DPRK. But it'll take substantial time.
It's frankly doubtful. There are no changes in secondary antennas around the plane. I.e. even if main array is completely new and world level (a big if), overall this plane is not much value v ROKAF/USAF.
We are not in an era where just having an ARH missile was a sufficient upgrade.
I agree with your arguments, but one choice shouldn't exclude the other. Research and design must advance together, both drones and aircraft. The DPRK's current fleet of combat aircraft isn't eternal, and some are over 70 years old. Therefore, if they want to maintain autonomy even with manned aircraft, they must focus on design and production. If they have outside help, this would speed up production.
North Korea teasing Choe Hyon being introduced into active service along stating 3rd and 4th in class will have different design. Another is showing off part of process of cannon/howitzer barrel being made, as too various tracked chassis, one of them being type used for KN-25 with enlarged by diameter canisters similar in design to cruise missiles canister of Hwasal-1 and Hwasal-2 hence I speculate either TEL for missile system akin to S-300V series or launcher of supersonic anti ship cruise missiles. Lastly stated range of 155mm self propelled howitzer is stated in excess of 60 kilometers thus outranging Juche-po aka M1979/M1989 Koksan.
