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Valiant 1002 said:
What I mean is that I emphasized the "if" clause because I mentioned it as a reference; I don't believe it completely but I don't reject it either.

And come on, they were only mentioned recently. Even if the Russians/Belarusians actually started working on them right after they announced it, the time frame is still too short to have any tangible results.
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No, the point is even to start thinking about it as if it would be realistic! That's plain PR and what if ...
 
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Do you really think Russia will develop "a single-engine fighter-bomber based on the MiG-23 and "real combat experience in the Ukrainian battlefield" or that Belarus is able to "restart production of Su-25 attack aircraft "with appropriate small technological support of the Russian Federation". That's nonsense!
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I don't know who started that stupid MiG-23 upgrade rumor but I heard it before.
It is highly unlikely it will happen since Russia is working on the Okhotnik and Grom drones to do front line bombing. Those are the most likely aircraft to do that mission. Russia is not exactly swimming in pilots to put them in a 3rd generation aircraft that used to crash all the time like the MiG-23 doing front line bombing.

As for the Su-25 production on Belarus that was publicly announced by the Russian and Belarussian governments so it is highly likely it will happen. Not that I think it is a good idea. Just consider the MiG-35 line is basically devoid of orders and it is a much more advanced aircraft. Just order that.

Anyway I agree that this kind of discussion already went too far.
 
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gelgoog said:
I don't know who started that stupid MiG-23 upgrade rumor but I heard it before.
It is highly unlikely it will happen since Russia is working on the Okhotnik and Grom drones to do front line bombing. Those are the most likely aircraft to do that mission. Russia is not exactly swimming in pilots to put them in a 3rd generation aircraft that used to crash all the time like the MiG-23 doing front line bombing.

As for the Su-25 production on Belarus that was publicly announced by the Russian and Belarussian governments so it is highly likely it will happen. Not that I think it is a good idea. Just consider the MiG-35 line is basically devoid of orders and it is a much more advanced aircraft. Just order that.

Anyway I agree that this kind of discussion already went too far.
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It also said that this was not a restart of the MiG-23/27 production, but rather a new aircraft based on that design. There will be many changes from the original design.
 
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Iran seems to have its own independent solid rocket program. Its missiles have no equivalents in North Korean service. The liquid rockets are based on North Korean designs but these will likely be phased out eventually.
 
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Same gun; updated turret shape(almost 100% light outer shell like before, but with extended ERA coverage). Redesigned APS more in line with the trendy iron fist setup(4 ready charges without reloads). Proper CITV and RWS(Koreans adore AGLs as usual), unlike before.
 
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Tor/HQ17-liked short range air defense system. There is a spec sheet and test shots included, but they are too small to make out clearly.
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Also, many drones and FPVs. 3 different types of cruise missiles - the white one is a submarine-launched? (Theoretically, it could also be ship-launched, if North Korea builds a naval launcher or VLS for it, ehehehe :3)
 
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Gloire_bb said:
Same gun; updated turret shape(almost 100% light outer shell like before, but with extended ERA coverage). Redesigned APS more in line with the trendy iron fist setup(4 ready charges without reloads). Proper CITV and RWS(Koreans adore AGLs as usual), unlike before.
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This almost certainly is not Chonma-2 and instead is likely heavy tank Songun-2.
North Korea has both main battle tank and heavy tank categories in military.
Baseline Cheonma-ho including heavily improved such as "216" is former.
Compared to much larger and heavier Seon'gun-915 being of latter.
Raised engine deck is different and probably house MTU-883 clone.
Overall tank is larger by every measure, probably 8 axles not 7.
 
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yugocrosrb95 said:
This almost certainly is not Chonma-2 and instead is likely heavy tank Songun-2.
North Korea has both main battle tank and heavy tank categories in military.
Baseline Cheonma-ho including heavily improved such as "216" is former.
Compared to much larger and heavier Seon'gun-915 being of latter.
Raised engine deck is different and probably house MTU-883 clone.
Overall tank is larger by every measure, probably 8 axles not 7.
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8 axles is probably too long for a tank.
 
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