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It will be just matter of time before the Asian university take top spot in world ranking of the best school
It is sad that US the birth place of modern technology now worship athlete , movie star , Holywood ,reality TV, youtuber more than STEM

Tsinghua Named World’s Best Engineering, Computer Science School
Oct 25, 2017
Beijing university overtakes MIT in two US News & World Report subject rankings.

One of China’s elite educational institutions, Tsinghua University in Beijing, is the world’s top school for both engineering and computer science, authoritative ranking survey U.S. News & World Report

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While Tsinghua has previously held U.S. News’ top spot for engineering, this marks the first time the school has overtaken the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) to be named the world’s best in computer science. Tsinghua was also ranked sixth in materials science and 10th in chemistry.

Other Chinese universities to be ranked highly for engineering include the Harbin Institute of Technology at No. 6 and Zhejiang University at No. 7. Zhejiang University also made the global top 10 in computer science, behind ninth-ranked Hangzhou University of Science and Technology.

U.S. News & World Report evaluated 1,250 universities in 74 countries for its 2018 rankings. The top four overall spots went to U.S. institutions Harvard University, MIT, Stanford University, and the University of California–Berkeley, in that order, with the U.K.’s Oxford University rounding out the top five.

Tsinghua, meanwhile, ranked fourth in Asia behind two Singaporean universities and the University of Tokyo, and 64th overall, just ahead of Beijing rival Peking University.

“The schools that rank the highest in the Best Global Universities rankings are those that emphasize academic research, including by partnering with international scholars to produce highly cited articles,” said Robert Morse, chief data strategist for U.S. News, in the company’s press release.

For its 2018 global rankings, U.S. News said it placed greater emphasis on international collaboration, rewarding schools that partnered with their foreign peers to write and publish papers. Other variables considered for the company’s include research reputation, number of publications, and citation frequency.

Tsinghua University did not immediately respond to Sixth Tone’s interview request on Wednesday.


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Hendrik_2000 said:

It will be just matter of time before the Asian university take top spot in world ranking of the best school
It is sad that US the birth place of modern technology now worship athlete , movie star , Holywood ,reality TV, youtuber more than STEM

Tsinghua Named World’s Best Engineering, Computer Science School
Oct 25, 2017
Beijing university overtakes MIT in two US News & World Report subject rankings.

One of China’s elite educational institutions, Tsinghua University in Beijing, is the world’s top school for both engineering and computer science, authoritative ranking survey U.S. News & World Report

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Tuesday.

While Tsinghua has previously held U.S. News’ top spot for engineering, this marks the first time the school has overtaken the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) to be named the world’s best in computer science. Tsinghua was also ranked sixth in materials science and 10th in chemistry.

Other Chinese universities to be ranked highly for engineering include the Harbin Institute of Technology at No. 6 and Zhejiang University at No. 7. Zhejiang University also made the global top 10 in computer science, behind ninth-ranked Hangzhou University of Science and Technology.

U.S. News & World Report evaluated 1,250 universities in 74 countries for its 2018 rankings. The top four overall spots went to U.S. institutions Harvard University, MIT, Stanford University, and the University of California–Berkeley, in that order, with the U.K.’s Oxford University rounding out the top five.

Tsinghua, meanwhile, ranked fourth in Asia behind two Singaporean universities and the University of Tokyo, and 64th overall, just ahead of Beijing rival Peking University.

“The schools that rank the highest in the Best Global Universities rankings are those that emphasize academic research, including by partnering with international scholars to produce highly cited articles,” said Robert Morse, chief data strategist for U.S. News, in the company’s press release.

For its 2018 global rankings, U.S. News said it placed greater emphasis on international collaboration, rewarding schools that partnered with their foreign peers to write and publish papers. Other variables considered for the company’s

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include research reputation, number of publications, and citation frequency.

Tsinghua University did not immediately respond to Sixth Tone’s interview request on Wednesday.

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Guess you can study in China for certain engineering subjects then. Wonder if there will be foreign students applying enmass to Chinese schools anytime soon.

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siegecrossbow said:

Guess you can study in China for certain engineering subjects then. Wonder if there will be foreign students applying enmass to Chinese schools anytime soon.

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I guess the hardest part for would be mastering reading and writing Chinese to the level good enough for academic study.
One of my brothers is living in Japan at the moment.While he and his circle of friends can speak Japanese and can read simple anime comic books, they say reading a Japanese newspaper is very hard because of the way it's written.His girlfriend is a medical engineering graduate and was given a scholarship to study for her doctorate over there.

Is it the same for written Chinese?

siegecrossbow said:

Guess you can study in China for certain engineering subjects then. Wonder if there will be foreign students applying enmass to Chinese schools anytime soon.

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Actually already happening ... mostly from Asian countries and Africa .. already 440,000 foreign student studying in China and rising very fast. It is nowhere near the number in the US though

B.I.B. said:

I guess the hardest part for would be mastering reading and writing Chinese to the level good enough for academic study.
One of my brothers is living in Japan at the moment.While he and his circle of friends can speak Japanese and can read simple anime comic books, they say reading a Japanese newspaper is very hard because of the way it's written.His girlfriend is a medical engineering graduate and was given a scholarship to study for her doctorate over there.

Is it the same for written Chinese?

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I am pretty sure that many colleges in China offer English education for foreigners.

taxiya said:

Only slightly larger, 9.6 vs. 9.4 million sqkm. But at least 1/3 of China is mountains, while US is flatter therefor easier to build HSR.

Most HSR countries are much smaller in size than US. The author is not focused on comparing US exclusively with China, but rather using the size to make a point that US is too big (except China) not to build HSR.

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Equation said:

If you are excluding Alaska and Hawaii (just compare mainland to mainland) than yes it is true.

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I have two problems with the statement in the article.

1) The claim that the US has "far more land area" than China is simply factually incorrect. Yes, there is the question of which nation is larger based upon precisely what is included or excluded, but there is no plausible criteria by which the USA is *significantly* larger than China, as the statement suggests. Such ignorance of basic comparative global geography (try looking at a globe or even a world map at some point) is something I have come to expect from Americans, but it is disappointing to find it from a Chinese author in a Chinese publication.

2) The viability of HSR is not determined by the size of a country, but rather by population densities in and around the hypothetical destinations, the terrain between them, expected passenger numbers, and various other ancillary factors. The argument that USA is too big for HSR is an argument favoured by Americans opposed to HSR that relies on factually incorrect assumptions about the USA and about other HSR-equipped nations (population distribution and density in HSR-equipped areas vs. similar areas in the USA, chiefly the North-East). And it is disappointing to see those arguments uncritically regurgitated by a Chinese publication.

That is to say, the statement is flawed on both a factual and theoretical basis. It is doubly incorrect.

To be fair, the article also discusses some of the real reasons why HSR has struggled in the USA: generalised hostility toward 'big government' taxation and spending, more mature car and air transport infrastructure arrangements (plus their beneficiaries and stakeholders), the urban-rural divide that still exerts powerful influence on American political culture, and the US political structure wherein the states are unusually powerful relative to the federal government, which complicates any project that crosses state lines.

Taking a broader view, I think the problem here is that most people have a very detailed conceptual understanding of their own locality/nation, and only a very crude understanding of other nations. To a certain extent, this is inevitable and unremarkable, however it becomes a problem when we confuse our crude understandings with reality, and draw conclusions without examining our assumptions more carefully. For example, a crude (but accurate) statement about China is that it has an enormous population. An incorrect conclusion that many people still draw from this is that China "needs to get its population under control". The reality of China's demographic trajectory makes a nonsense of such statements.

siegecrossbow said:

I am pretty sure that many colleges in China offer English education for foreigners.

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I think it is the other way around. Foreign students spend 2 years in studying Chinese (pre-college) before taking their education in specific subject.

The reason I know is because I grow up in such pre-college. This college is found and being the exclusive provider of such language training up till late 1990s. After that, most ordinary universities began to set up their own Chinese training program serving the same purpose.

It is essentially impossible for Chinese university to provide English education in any subjects because doing so means all text books, technical terms must be translated into English in the class, or introducing English books. The teachers must be fluent and accurate in speaking English in the subject. That is impossible unless China become a country like Scandinavian Europe where English is well spoken by even teenagers, and these countries do provided English classes in the college in foreign exchange program. I am sure it does not happen in France or Germany. Certainly China will be after them.

B.I.B. said:

I guess the hardest part for would be mastering reading and writing Chinese to the level good enough for academic study.
One of my brothers is living in Japan at the moment.While he and his circle of friends can speak Japanese and can read simple anime comic books, they say reading a Japanese newspaper is very hard because of the way it's written.His girlfriend is a medical engineering graduate and was given a scholarship to study for her doctorate over there.

Is it the same for written Chinese?

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That level requires at least two years full time Chinese education in a pre-college or preparing program aimed at Engineering and Science.

It is same (difficulty to westerners) because Japanese share the same Chinese characters and words from Chinese, though not grammar (but non of them close to any European languages).

Lethe said:

I have two problems with the statement in the article.

1) The claim that the US has "far more land area" than China is simply factually incorrect. Yes, there is the question of which nation is larger based upon precisely what is included or excluded, but there is no plausible criteria by which the USA is *significantly* larger than China, as the statement suggests. Such ignorance of basic comparative global geography (try looking at a globe or even a world map at some point) is something I have come to expect from Americans, but it is disappointing to find it from a Chinese author in a Chinese publication.

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I did not read the article myself, but I agree "far more land area" is totally off.

siegecrossbow said:

Guess you can study in China for certain engineering subjects then. Wonder if there will be foreign students applying enmass to Chinese schools anytime soon.

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It has been happening since the 1970s if your foreign students is not exclusive to refer westerners.

Before the 1990s, most of foreign students come from Africa and Asia whose purpose is not just language but mostly engineering. Since then, South Korean has been taking the major portion, I'd say more than 50%. They firstly focused on Chinese language (prosper carrier as mediator, business in China), recently the focus has expanded to almost all subjects including science and engineering. They are followed by Japanese and Chinese from SE Asia.

Of course, enmass will not happen in case of western countries (EU, Canada and U.S.) because of language barrier + good alternative at home countries.