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Not only that they run faster they also run smoother Here is the ultimate coin test on Chinese vs Germany Highspeed train. See it for yourself who make better train:D
I don't see any problem with terminating the contract as long as the agreement allowed it to do that.I don't believe Siemens is that stupid. They must calculate that it is still profitable for them to sell the Chinese HRSG knowing it will be RE. I don't remember it well but I don't think they terminate it after 13 order

Come on, that is a blatantly different favorable setup on the Chinese train. Not comparable. And arguably the guy seems to be barely trying on the German train.

OK saw the newer posts but still.
 
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Captain
Come on, that is a blatantly different favorable setup on the Chinese train. Not comparable. And arguably the guy seems to be barely trying on the German train.

OK saw the newer posts but still.

IMO in a real test, one would have to do it on a measured distance on the same track with similar generation trains. In Quickies demo, I noticed on one occasion where the coin only stayed up for a few seconds.
I have ridden on the French fast train,and found it pretty good, maybe I'll get to ride a Chinese one someday.
 

B.I.B.

Captain
Not only that they run faster they also run smoother Here is the ultimate coin test on Chinese vs Germany Highspeed train. See it for yourself who make better train:D
I don't see any problem with terminating the contract as long as the agreement allowed it to do that.I don't believe Siemens is that stupid. They must calculate that it is still profitable for them to sell the Chinese HRSG knowing it will be RE. I don't remember it well but I don't think they terminate it after 13 order

From a operaters POV I should imaginine it would be the bottom line which determines which train was the more preferable.
 

Quickie

Colonel
Come on, that is a blatantly different favorable setup on the Chinese train. Not comparable. And arguably the guy seems to be barely trying on the German train.
OK saw the newer posts but still.

Although, I agree the testing condition should be similar, the setup on the Chinese train isn't necessary the more favorable one since you have unsymmetrical vibration forces acting on the bottom and side of the coin.
 

B.I.B.

Captain
Although, I agree the testing condition should be similar, the setup on the Chinese train isn't necessary the more favorable one since you have unsymmetrical vibration forces acting on the bottom and side of the coin.

I think the possibility of these unsymmetrical vibration forces being fractionally greater at each end of the carriage than the centre, because of the bogey which the carriage sits upon, is also where the motors driving the train wheels are placed. The German test could have been carried out on the seat closest to the bogey.
 

Hendrik_2000

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From a operaters POV I should imaginine it would be the bottom line which determines which train was the more preferable.

Which bottom line did you have in mind Operating cost,?Capital cost? I think both cost should be lower for domestic train
Did you ever bring your Merc, Beamer for repair and get sticker shock because of the parts high cost?

Not sure about engine efficiency But if it electric it should not be that different in motor efficiency.

Most of the HSR is not going to make money in first couple years but they are make up by having more economic activity and stimulate growth and investment along the track
 
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