News on China's scientific and technological development.

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
The innovations of the few are only possible because the vast majority of "useless" people contribute to providing a quality of life for everyone so that a few even have the opportunity to work hard, and get lucky, to pursue innovation for the benefit of everyone. That's the fundamental social contract everywhere. Try innovating when one has to worry about subsistence and competing with everyone else for subsistence.
You're right. Useless is not the correct word; most people function to perform the fundamental up-keeping tasks of society without which society could not function. The correct word is probably something like "replaceable" and "linear" in that 1 construction worker does X amount of work and 3 can do 3X amount and if one quits, he can be replaced by any able-bodied male. For a country to be at a loss for those, you would need an en masse exodus. But an innovator is a force multiplier of the entire system (invents machines so each construction worker no longer produces X but 10X instead); losing just one can take a noticeable toll on a country and they are especially vaunted in China.
 
Last edited:
now I read
China launches space telescope to search for black holes, pulsars
Xinhua| 2017-06-15 13:55:46
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

China launched its first X-ray space telescope to observe black holes, pulsars and gamma-ray bursts, via a Long March-4B rocket from Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center in northwest China's Gobi Desert at 11 a.m. Thursday.

The 2.5-tonne Hard X-ray Modulation Telescope (HXMT), dubbed Insight, was sent into an orbit of 550 kilometers above the earth to help scientists better understand the evolution of black holes, and the strong magnetic fields and the interiors of pulsars.

Through the telescope, scientists will also study how to use pulsars for spacecraft navigation, and search for gamma-ray bursts corresponding to gravitational waves.

The result of the wisdom and efforts of several generations of Chinese scientists, Insight is expected to push forward the development of space astronomy and improve space X-ray detection technology in China.

Insight can be regarded as a small observatory in space, as it carries a trio of detectors -- the high energy X-ray telescope (HE), the medium energy X-ray telescope (ME) and the low energy X-ray telescope (LE) -- that cover a broad energy band from 1 keV to 250 keV, said Lu Fangjun, chief designer of the payload.

Based on the demodulation technique first proposed by Li Tipei, an academician of the Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS), in 1993, the HE has a total detection area of more than 5,000 square centimeters, the world's largest in its energy band.

"Given it has a larger detection area than other X-ray probes, HXMT can identify more features of known sources," said Xiong Shaolin, a scientist at the Institute of High Energy Physics of the CAS.

Chen Yong, chief designer of the LE, said X-rays of lower energy usually have more photons, so a telescope based on a focusing technique is not suitable for observing very bright objects emitting soft X-rays, as too many photons at a time will result in over-exposure.

But HXMT won't have that problem, as its collimators diffuse photons instead of focusing them. "No matter how bright the sources are, our telescope won't be blinded," said Chen.

According to Zhang Shuangnan, HXMT lead scientist, the satellite's developers found that a set of HXMT high-energy detectors, originally designed to shield background noises caused by unwanted particles, could be adjusted to observe gamma-ray bursts.

The creative new function pushes the satellite's observation band up to 3 MeV and a very good energy spectrum, Zhang said.
 

Quickie

Colonel
China' s quantum satellite establishes photon entanglement over 1,200 km



136370736_14975897972001n.jpg


Pan Jianwei, chief scientist for the quantum satellite project, speaks at a press conference at the University of Science and Technology of China, in Hefei, east China's Anhui Province, June 16, 2017. A team of Chinese scientists have realized the satellite-based distribution of entangled photon pairs over 1,200 kilometers. The photon pairs were demonstrated to be still entangled after travelling long distances. This satellite-based technology opens up bright prospects for both practical quantum communications and fundamental quantum optics experiments at distances previously inaccessible on the ground, said Pan Jianwei, an academician of the Chinese Academy of Sciences. (Xinhua/Jin Liwang)

HEFEI, June 16 (Xinhua) -- A team of Chinese scientists have realized the satellite-based distribution of entangled photon pairs over 1,200 kilometers. The photon pairs were demonstrated to be still entangled after travelling long distances.

This satellite-based technology opens up bright prospects for both practical quantum communications and fundamental quantum optics experiments at distances previously inaccessible on the ground, said Pan Jianwei, an academician of the Chinese Academy of Sciences.

The achievement was made based on the world' s first quantum satellite, Quantum Experiments at Space Scale (QUESS), also dubbed Micius, launched by China on August 16, 2016, and was published as a cover article in the latest issue of academic journal Science.

This experiment was made through two satellite-to-ground downlinks with a total length varying from 1,600 to 2,400 kilometers. The obtained link efficiency is many times higher than that of the direct bidirectional transmission of the two photons through telecommunication fibers, said Pan, who is also the lead scientist of QUESS.

Quantum entanglement is a phenomenon in quantum physics, which is so confounding that Albert Einstein described it as "spooky action at a distance" in 1948.

Scientists found that when two entangled particles are separated, one particle can somehow affect the action of the far-off twin instantly.

Scientists liken it to two pieces of paper that are distant from each other: if you write on one, the other immediately shows your writing.

The mystery of quantum entanglement has been puzzling scientists since it was detected.

Quantum physicists have a fundamental interest in distributing entangled particles over increasingly long distances and studying the behavior of entanglement under extreme conditions.

In theory, this bizarre connection can exist over any distance, but scientists want to see if there' s some physical limit. "If you want to explore new physics, you must push the limits," Pan said.

Previously, entanglement distribution had only been achieved at a distance up to 100 kilometers due to photon loss in optical fibers or terrestrial free space.

One way to improve the distribution lies in the protocol of quantum repeaters, whose practical usefulness, however, is hindered by the challenges of quantum storage and readout efficiency, Pan said.

Another approach is making use of satellite-based and space-based technologies, as a satellite can conveniently cover two distant locations on Earth. The main advantage of this approach is that most of the photons' transmission path is almost in a vacuum, with almost zero absorption and de-coherence, Pan said.

After feasibility studies, Chinese scientists developed and launched QUESS for the mission of entanglement distribution. Cooperating with QUESS are three ground stations: Delingha Observatory in Qinghai, Nanshan Observatory in Xinjiang and Gaomeigu Observatory in Yunan.

For instance, one photon of an entangled pair was beamed to Delingha and the other to Gaomeigu. The distance between the two ground stations is 1,203 kilometers. The distance between the orbiting satellite and the ground stations varies from 500 to 2,000 kilometers, said Pan.

Due to the fact that the entangled photons cannot be amplified as classical signals, new methods must be developed to reduce the link attenuation in the satellite-to-ground entanglement distribution. To optimize the link efficiency, Chinese scientists combined a narrow beam divergence with a high-bandwidth and a high-precision acquiring, pointing, and tracking (APT) technique.

An accurate transmission of photons between the "server" and the "receiver" is never easy, as the optic axis of the satellite must point precisely toward those of the telescopes in the ground stations, said Zhu Zhencai, QUESS chief designer.

What makes it much harder is that the satellite flying over the Earth at a speed of 8 kilometers per second can be continuously tracked by the ground station for just a few minutes.

"It is like tossing a coin from a plane at 100,000 meters above sea level exactly into the slot of a rotating piggy bank," said Wang Jianyu, QUESS project's chief commander.

The highly sensitive QUESS could make visible from the Earth a match being lit on the Moon, Wang added.

By developing an ultra-bright space-borne two-photon entanglement source and the high-precision APT technology, the team established entanglement between two single photons separated by 1,203 kilometers.

Compared with the previous methods of entanglement distribution by direct transmission of the same two-photon source -- using the best performance and most common commercial telecommunication fibers respectively -- the effective link efficiency of the satellite-based approach is 12 and 17 orders of magnitude higher, Pan said.

He said the distributed entangled photons are readily useful for entanglement-based quantum key distribution, which, so far, is the only way to establish secure keys between two distant locations on Earth without relying on trustful relay.

QUESS is also designed to establish "hack-proof" quantum communications by transmitting uncrackable keys from space to the ground, as well as test quantum teleportation with a ground station in Ali, Tibet.

Pan revealed they also want to see if it' s possible to distribute entanglement between the Earth and the Moon in future.


Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
China' s quantum satellite establishes photon entanglement over 1,200 km



136370736_14975897972001n.jpg


Pan Jianwei, chief scientist for the quantum satellite project, speaks at a press conference at the University of Science and Technology of China, in Hefei, east China's Anhui Province, June 16, 2017. A team of Chinese scientists have realized the satellite-based distribution of entangled photon pairs over 1,200 kilometers. The photon pairs were demonstrated to be still entangled after travelling long distances. This satellite-based technology opens up bright prospects for both practical quantum communications and fundamental quantum optics experiments at distances previously inaccessible on the ground, said Pan Jianwei, an academician of the Chinese Academy of Sciences. (Xinhua/Jin Liwang)

HEFEI, June 16 (Xinhua) -- A team of Chinese scientists have realized the satellite-based distribution of entangled photon pairs over 1,200 kilometers. The photon pairs were demonstrated to be still entangled after travelling long distances.

This satellite-based technology opens up bright prospects for both practical quantum communications and fundamental quantum optics experiments at distances previously inaccessible on the ground, said Pan Jianwei, an academician of the Chinese Academy of Sciences.

The achievement was made based on the world' s first quantum satellite, Quantum Experiments at Space Scale (QUESS), also dubbed Micius, launched by China on August 16, 2016, and was published as a cover article in the latest issue of academic journal Science.

This experiment was made through two satellite-to-ground downlinks with a total length varying from 1,600 to 2,400 kilometers. The obtained link efficiency is many times higher than that of the direct bidirectional transmission of the two photons through telecommunication fibers, said Pan, who is also the lead scientist of QUESS.

Quantum entanglement is a phenomenon in quantum physics, which is so confounding that Albert Einstein described it as "spooky action at a distance" in 1948.

Scientists found that when two entangled particles are separated, one particle can somehow affect the action of the far-off twin instantly.

Scientists liken it to two pieces of paper that are distant from each other: if you write on one, the other immediately shows your writing.

The mystery of quantum entanglement has been puzzling scientists since it was detected.

Quantum physicists have a fundamental interest in distributing entangled particles over increasingly long distances and studying the behavior of entanglement under extreme conditions.

In theory, this bizarre connection can exist over any distance, but scientists want to see if there' s some physical limit. "If you want to explore new physics, you must push the limits," Pan said.

Previously, entanglement distribution had only been achieved at a distance up to 100 kilometers due to photon loss in optical fibers or terrestrial free space.

One way to improve the distribution lies in the protocol of quantum repeaters, whose practical usefulness, however, is hindered by the challenges of quantum storage and readout efficiency, Pan said.

Another approach is making use of satellite-based and space-based technologies, as a satellite can conveniently cover two distant locations on Earth. The main advantage of this approach is that most of the photons' transmission path is almost in a vacuum, with almost zero absorption and de-coherence, Pan said.

After feasibility studies, Chinese scientists developed and launched QUESS for the mission of entanglement distribution. Cooperating with QUESS are three ground stations: Delingha Observatory in Qinghai, Nanshan Observatory in Xinjiang and Gaomeigu Observatory in Yunan.

For instance, one photon of an entangled pair was beamed to Delingha and the other to Gaomeigu. The distance between the two ground stations is 1,203 kilometers. The distance between the orbiting satellite and the ground stations varies from 500 to 2,000 kilometers, said Pan.

Due to the fact that the entangled photons cannot be amplified as classical signals, new methods must be developed to reduce the link attenuation in the satellite-to-ground entanglement distribution. To optimize the link efficiency, Chinese scientists combined a narrow beam divergence with a high-bandwidth and a high-precision acquiring, pointing, and tracking (APT) technique.

An accurate transmission of photons between the "server" and the "receiver" is never easy, as the optic axis of the satellite must point precisely toward those of the telescopes in the ground stations, said Zhu Zhencai, QUESS chief designer.

What makes it much harder is that the satellite flying over the Earth at a speed of 8 kilometers per second can be continuously tracked by the ground station for just a few minutes.

"It is like tossing a coin from a plane at 100,000 meters above sea level exactly into the slot of a rotating piggy bank," said Wang Jianyu, QUESS project's chief commander.

The highly sensitive QUESS could make visible from the Earth a match being lit on the Moon, Wang added.

By developing an ultra-bright space-borne two-photon entanglement source and the high-precision APT technology, the team established entanglement between two single photons separated by 1,203 kilometers.

Compared with the previous methods of entanglement distribution by direct transmission of the same two-photon source -- using the best performance and most common commercial telecommunication fibers respectively -- the effective link efficiency of the satellite-based approach is 12 and 17 orders of magnitude higher, Pan said.

He said the distributed entangled photons are readily useful for entanglement-based quantum key distribution, which, so far, is the only way to establish secure keys between two distant locations on Earth without relying on trustful relay.

QUESS is also designed to establish "hack-proof" quantum communications by transmitting uncrackable keys from space to the ground, as well as test quantum teleportation with a ground station in Ali, Tibet.

Pan revealed they also want to see if it' s possible to distribute entanglement between the Earth and the Moon in future.


Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
My first reaction was joy. My second reaction was confusion. Since this a clearly a military project, to create hacking/jamming-immune radar/satellite communications, why would they share this info? This is not stuff that foreign satellites could discover unlike the solar drone. So why? Best 3 reasons I could come up with:

1.They couldn't really do it. They found a critical flaw in quantum communications and are announcing this as both a bluff and an effort to waste foreign military assets on investing in a dead end.
2. They can do much much more now and are way beyond this. Revealing this is like revealing the specs of J-7.
3. An allied spy has uncovered this information and the Chinese later discovered his deed. It is assumed that China's major rivals already know so they might as well make it public information to keep their citizens in the loop too.
 

SamuraiBlue

Captain
How about none above?
Basically we know that maintaining quantum entanglement you require cryogenic temperature.
You also need more than an few entanglements to send a viable message within required time to make it useful or you are back to morose code.
At the end you need to authenticate that message which is not possible with present technology.
Distance has no meaning to the science since theoretically it is able to send an message regardless of distance but unfortunately it is still not ready for practical use.
 

nugroho

Junior Member
My first reaction was joy. My second reaction was confusion. Since this a clearly a military project, to create hacking/jamming-immune radar/satellite communications, why would they share this info? This is not stuff that foreign satellites could discover unlike the solar drone. So why? Best 3 reasons I could come up with:

1.They couldn't really do it. They found a critical flaw in quantum communications and are announcing this as both a bluff and an effort to waste foreign military assets on investing in a dead end.
2. They can do much much more now and are way beyond this. Revealing this is like revealing the specs of J-7.
3. An allied spy has uncovered this information and the Chinese later discovered his deed. It is assumed that China's major rivals already know so they might as well make it public information to keep their citizens in the loop too.
Vote for number 3.
now 1200 km will be the coverage of the new radar which can detect any stealth aircraft, just remember that they only achieve 100 km a few months ago
 

vesicles

Colonel
How about none above?
Basically we know that maintaining quantum entanglement you require cryogenic temperature.
You also need more than an few entanglements to send a viable message within required time to make it useful or you are back to morose code.
At the end you need to authenticate that message which is not possible with present technology.
Distance has no meaning to the science since theoretically it is able to send an message regardless of distance but unfortunately it is still not ready for practical use.

What?! Cryogenic? Why? Quantum entanglement is generated using crystals to split photons. No need to lower the temp... Major limitations lie with detection, I think...
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
How about none above?
Basically we know that maintaining quantum entanglement you require cryogenic temperature.
You also need more than an few entanglements to send a viable message within required time to make it useful or you are back to morose code.
At the end you need to authenticate that message which is not possible with present technology.
Distance has no meaning to the science since theoretically it is able to send an message regardless of distance but unfortunately it is still not ready for practical use.
I'm sorry. Because you're always wrong and have shown extremely poor reading comprehension, I can't give you the benefit of the doubt even when I don't know the answer. You need to cite a source for every one of your claims.

I kinda assumed that it's not ready for prime time military use yet, but it's still not normal to disclose progress on classified military research, especially not for the PRC.
 
Last edited:

taxiya

Brigadier
Registered Member
My first reaction was joy. My second reaction was confusion. Since this a clearly a military project, to create hacking/jamming-immune radar/satellite communications, why would they share this info? This is not stuff that foreign satellites could discover unlike the solar drone. So why? Best 3 reasons I could come up with:

1.They couldn't really do it. They found a critical flaw in quantum communications and are announcing this as both a bluff and an effort to waste foreign military assets on investing in a dead end.
2. They can do much much more now and are way beyond this. Revealing this is like revealing the specs of J-7.
3. An allied spy has uncovered this information and the Chinese later discovered his deed. It is assumed that China's major rivals already know so they might as well make it public information to keep their citizens in the loop too.
I think it is not a pure military project. It is a secured communication project that has applications in all kinds of communication including military.
  1. Quantum encrypted communication is already used in Beijing by ICBC and another bank to connect their data centers to protect commercial and financial transactions.
  2. A secured communication trunk line is being built and will be online by end of 2017 between Beijing and Shanghai.
In these two applications, the transmission of quantum entangled crypto keys are through optical fiber which has a limitation of <100km by today's technology without repetition. So there will be many repeater devices between Beijing and Shanghai (2000km). The repeater is a weak point which is electronic based and can be theoretically hacked just like routers.

The satellite project is to overcome the shortcomings of optical fibers by distributing keys over thousands kilometers over the vacuum of space with fixed distance through atmosphere. Possible to make a global network.

The project is also an international collaboration. Pan Jianwei's Ph.D. advisor was Austrian Anton Zeilinger from University of Vienna. The next stage is to distribute the keys between Vienna and one of the China site. Mr. Zeilinger is responsible of the Vienna site.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
I think it is not a pure military project. It is a secured communication project that has applications in all kinds of communication including military.
  1. Quantum encrypted communication is already used in Beijing by ICBC and another bank to connect their data centers to protect commercial and financial transactions.
  2. A secured communication trunk line is being built and will be online by end of 2017 between Beijing and Shanghai.
In these two applications, the transmission of quantum entangled crypto keys are through optical fiber which has a limitation of <100km by today's technology without repetition. So there will be many repeater devices between Beijing and Shanghai (2000km). The repeater is a weak point which is electronic based and can be theoretically hacked just like routers.

The satellite project is to overcome the shortcomings of optical fibers by distributing keys over thousands kilometers over the vacuum of space with fixed distance through atmosphere. Possible to make a global network.

The project is also an international collaboration. Pan Jianwei's Ph.D. advisor was Austrian Anton Zeilinger from University of Vienna. The next stage is to distribute the keys between Vienna and one of the China site. Mr. Zeilinger is responsible of the Vienna site.
Then hopefully the information disclosed is the extent of their research for civilian use and their military research is superior or somehow different. China should never sell its national security for money; if commercial information can be sued by foreign intelligence, then it should not be commercial, for any price.
 
Top