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Phead128

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China has 4x the population of the US and should be graduating 4x as much Ph. Ds and have 4x as much total productivity. That it isn’t indicates there’s still room for improvement. The reality is that the US has access to the resources of its entire Western alliance (which combined is about similar size to China and double if you count India) & beyond via brain drain.

It’s fortunate that Trump has done much to dismantle the trust within that alliance. Otherwise China would be in a much harder spot if the entire Western alliance was committed to containing it. Winning against the US in quantity was never in question (the US is 1/4th the size of China in population); winning against the Western alliance is much harder and requires raising China’s per capita output above that of the West’s.
As someone with a US PhD in STEM, you seem to overestimate American PhDs. Not all PhDs are created equal. I know a ton of social science, humanities, political science PhDs that are unemployed and barely scraping by. Only 40% of US PhDs granted are STEM related.
 

Michael90

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As someone with a US PhD in STEM, you seem to overestimate American PhDs. Not all PhDs are created equal. I know a ton of social science, humanities, political science PhDs that are unemployed and barely scraping by. Only 40% of US PhDs granted are STEM related.
There should be a reason people around the world travel to the US for studies I believe? In your case what do you think was the main advantage that made you choose to do your PhD there? Is there any advantage over other countries?
 

Eventine

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As someone with a US PhD in STEM, you seem to overestimate American PhDs. Not all PhDs are created equal. I know a ton of social science, humanities, political science PhDs that are unemployed and barely scraping by. Only 40% of US PhDs granted are STEM related.
International students comprise >40% of US STEM Ph. Ds and disproportionally produce its most ground breaking research across most fields. I don’t think you should under sell them since many were historically the best of China, India, and Europe. Let us not underestimate the research talent of international students or confuse them with privileged, complacent Americans. China is no longer sending its best to the US but the rest of the world still is.
 

manqiangrexue

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There should be a reason people around the world travel to the US for studies I believe? In your case what do you think was the main advantage that made you choose to do your PhD there? Is there any advantage over other countries?
1. America used to have the top tier technology of the world. 20-30 years ago, what could you learn in China when it comes to tech? Almost nothing compared to what one could learn in America. That's not the case anymore.

2. Less competitive atmosphere. You're expected to work your ass off in China; you have peers waiting to eat your lunch at every turn. In the US, suddenly you're the smartest, hardest working person in the lab.

3. Higher standard of living. This is also fading, with many Americans on XiaoHongShu saying it is reversed now with China's affordable great food and heavily tech-integrated modern metropolises. But decades ago, life was more modern and better in the US.
International students comprise >40% of US STEM Ph. Ds and disproportionally produce its most ground breaking research across most fields. I don’t think you should under sell them since many were historically the best of China, India, and Europe. Let us not underestimate the research talent of international students or confuse them with privileged, complacent Americans. China is no longer sending its best to the US but the rest of the world still is.
The flow from the rest of the world is reduced as well with the US acting as a mad dog. Those who are in the US are oppertunists, not loyalists. And to be frank, they just don't stack up to their Chinese counterparts. In American labs, the Chinese guys are almost always the star performers even though there are scientists from other countries there kinda hanging out on the sides too.
 

siegecrossbow

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As someone with a US PhD in STEM, you seem to overestimate American PhDs. Not all PhDs are created equal. I know a ton of social science, humanities, political science PhDs that are unemployed and barely scraping by. Only 40% of US PhDs granted are STEM related.

And of those guess how many are of Chinese descent?

Thanks to eight years of continuous witch hunts a lot of them have taken the MAGA advice and are “going back to China”.
 

supercat

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Europe won't have an EV battery supply chain anytime soon. Nor will North America. Nor will Japan.

Nissan, Toyota battery plant U-turns stall Japan supply chain goals​

With China dominating market, Tokyo seeks domestic production for economic security
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China Passenger Car Association (CPCA) predicts that the battery EV penetration rate will reach 80% in China by late 2032.
 

sndef888

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There are rumours that Huawei Pura 80 Ultra will use Smartsens SC5A0XS CMOS

Instead of Omnivision OV50 or Sony IMX989

I think it's really good news that not only does China have internationally competitive suppliers for advanced parts like this, but that there are now multiple suppliers competing with each other. A sign of the industry getting much wider.
 
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