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As we do this transition to Industry 4.0, the role of software is a major part of it. As I discussed in NEV thread, the Germans are having a real trouble with it right now. Everything requires modern RT operating system now and syncing with other devices.

But how did China get good in OS, well there is an interesting piece here from HW's former HR person
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华为搞鸿蒙操作系统,对中国产业链影响深大!华为实际上搞了两个操作系统,一个是大家很熟悉的鸿蒙系统,应用于手机等终端系统的。另一个是欧拉系统,主要是用在服务器等的。

由于个人端的生态庞大和复杂度其实远大于服务器类的,所以鸿蒙系统的生态构建反而还不如欧拉系统那么快。欧拉系统今年已经是中国第一大新装机服务器操作系统了。鸿蒙需要明年才会成为中国第一大操作系统。
看着鸿蒙系统走向成功了,一些友商开始把UI改名为OS,其实还是UI,因为可以通过谷歌GMS认证,在谷歌看就是一个标准安卓系统做UI定制化开发而已,这些OS主要是营销价值吧。真要搞好操作系统要做几个艰难工作:

第一,如何构建生态系统。可以说这是一个操作系统成败的关键。没有生态就没有操作系统,反之亦然,蛋生鸡、鸡生蛋的关系。但是如果不投入开发系统这一步,就没有操作系统。华为这几年,每年都投入过百亿元、几千人搞鸿蒙系统。如果生态不起来,鸿蒙系统就会半途而废。所以华为已经决定,明年就搞单框架的鸿蒙系统,不搞鸿蒙与安卓双框架。
明年搞出来后,针对鸿蒙系统定制的APP,流畅性会大幅提升,效果可能是就是用7nm处理器也比别人用3nm处理器还要好。
所以到时候,华为和业界把主流APP都鸿蒙化后,鸿蒙手机的体验会超越其他手机。尤其是明年华为新增市场可能会达一半,其他生态系统就会逐步边缘化,生态就会成。
而生态构成就会提升中国产业链的安全性和韧性,不再发生美国一声令下,华为手机海外市场就难以展开的事情。我们从中国再打出去,效果就会好很多。

第二,开发一系列工具。华为进入鸿蒙系统开发后,才发现中国在这一块的存在简直就是空白,华为基本上从零开始。而搞这些都需要大神级别软件人才,华为构建这个队伍真是对中国软件生态的巨大贡献。从设计资源,编程语言,编译器到开发工具、调测工具全面升级,打造“鸿蒙生态”的加速器,HarmonyOS SDK升级至 API 10端云一体,一次集成。这些事情不是一时半刻可以搞定,要久久为功才行。所以在鸿蒙4.0后,华为就敢全面转换到单框架,因为华为已经搞成了鸿蒙开发工具链且是有效率的。

第三,提升用户体验。比如一开始网友测试发现华为Mate60Pro王者荣耀120帧稳定运行;而苹果iPhone15就不行,发烫就就掉帧降亮度。这就是实际体验,而不是跑分有多好。当然据说后来苹果针对发热有一些优化,就没有继续跟踪了。
由于当前硬件方面芯片代工技术落后几年,所以华为手机通过鸿蒙系统来软硬件一体化设计而达到以软补硬,软硬兼施的办法达到体验的领先。
后续华为还会利用自己在AI技术等的领先,继续优化手机等的体验,比如最近的照片云优化等。

第四,告诉大家没有什么不可能。当年华为要自己搞SOC时候,很多人说不可能,甚至说十年二十年都赶不上高通的都有,结果麒麟处理器在麒麟980就已经持平高通处理器、麒麟990则已经领先了。所以很多人说鸿蒙成不了,这要是能成,而且靠的是市场经济模式搞成,还会再一次提升国人的产业和研发信心的。而把信息产业最难的芯片和操作系统搞成,那华为就相当于给中国产业链打一个最牢靠的基础。
 

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I am assuming will use domestic chips?
idk. they still have stock of nvidia chips, so I think it will be a mix

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Midea reporting their Q3 numbers. this caught my eyes
该公司新能源及工业技术年初至报告期末收入为 213 亿元同比增长 25%,智能建筑科技年初至报告期末收入为 212 亿元同比增长 19%,机器人与自动化年初至报告期末收入为 229 亿元同比增长 17%。
Pretty big growth in New energy, smart construction and robot/automation vs last Year. larger growth in these areas than its overall performance

So from robotics point of view, still selling a lot of robots in its Kuka unit
 

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We'll see how long it takes to get this stuff into commercial usage:

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2023-10-31 09:01:53Global Times Editor : Li Yan
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“Whether in real life or in the world of nature and animals there is a lot of 'invisibility', and this is not magic, is a scientific means,” Chu Junhao, infrared physicist and the academician of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, said at a scientific event on Saturday evening. (Photo/Sina Weibo)

“Whether in real life or in the world of nature and animals there is a lot of 'invisibility', and this is not magic, is a scientific means,” Chu Junhao, infrared physicist and the academician of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, said at a scientific event on Saturday evening. (Photo/Sina Weibo)

"Whether in real life or in the world of nature and animals there is a lot of 'invisibility', and this is not magic, is a scientific means,"Chu Junhao, infrared physicist and the academician of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, said at a scientific event on Saturday evening.
In fact, today's technological developments have opened the door to the possibility that Harry Potter's invisible cloak could go from magic to reality. Chu demonstrated the "invisibility" at the event, and he made his legs disappear directly with the help of a magical material called "lenticular grating" that allows light to be refracted regularly. The magical scene elicited gasps from the audience at the scene.
This is a special kind of material, made up of rows of tiny cylindrical convex lenses arranged into a cylindrical convex lens, each cylindrical convex lens will compress the object behind the object into a thin strip, and enough lenses break the object into an infinite number of identical thin strips, giving people a kind of illusion of invisibility.
"In addition, refractive index can also be used to 'invisibility', for example, objects with high borosilicate glass materials can also be 'invisible' when moving in glycerol with a refractive index close to its own," Chu noted.
This is actually one of the principles of realizing the "invisible cloak", when the fabric of a garment and the air refractive index are the same, people can be freely "invisible" after wearing it, said the expert.
Chu further said that the current exploration of the forefront of "invisibility" cannot only avoid the naked eye, but also avoid infrared monitoring.
With the increasing diversification of modern detection means, for a single spectrum, such as visible light, infrared light, or for a single type of detector, such as radar, laser detection has long been unable to meet people's needs for "invisibility".
"The real 'perfect invisibility' requires that the above detection means can be avoided, and its essence is the low detectability of any electromagnetic wave,"Chu added.
The advent of "metamaterials" provides a new solution for the perfect invisibility of any electromagnetic wave. It is a man-made composite material that changes the conventional properties of light and electromagnetic waves by designing and reorganizing the fine structure of the material.
"In the future, with the gradual maturity of technology and 'metamaterials', the 'invisibility 'fantasy in science fiction works will gradually come to reality." Chu said that it is believed that there will be more "invisibility" equipment to change our lives in the future, such as invisible rooms with better privacy and invisible hearing aids.
"When I read Harry Potter as a child, I never thought that one day someone would be able to appear in front of me wearing such a cloak of invisibility, and now I look at the day may not be too far away,"one netizen said on Chinese social media platform Sina Weibo. If this technology does become widespread, won't it mean the cost of crime will fall? The law should also be improved to prevent similar situations from happening, said another.
 

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We'll see how long it takes to get this stuff into commercial usage:

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2023-10-31 09:01:53Global Times Editor : Li Yan
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“Whether in real life or in the world of nature and animals there is a lot of 'invisibility', and this is not magic, is a scientific means,” Chu Junhao, infrared physicist and the academician of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, said at a scientific event on Saturday evening. (Photo/Sina Weibo)'invisibility', and this is not magic, is a scientific means,” Chu Junhao, infrared physicist and the academician of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, said at a scientific event on Saturday evening. (Photo/Sina Weibo)

“Whether in real life or in the world of nature and animals there is a lot of 'invisibility', and this is not magic, is a scientific means,” Chu Junhao, infrared physicist and the academician of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, said at a scientific event on Saturday evening. (Photo/Sina Weibo)

"Whether in real life or in the world of nature and animals there is a lot of 'invisibility', and this is not magic, is a scientific means,"Chu Junhao, infrared physicist and the academician of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, said at a scientific event on Saturday evening.
In fact, today's technological developments have opened the door to the possibility that Harry Potter's invisible cloak could go from magic to reality. Chu demonstrated the "invisibility" at the event, and he made his legs disappear directly with the help of a magical material called "lenticular grating" that allows light to be refracted regularly. The magical scene elicited gasps from the audience at the scene.
This is a special kind of material, made up of rows of tiny cylindrical convex lenses arranged into a cylindrical convex lens, each cylindrical convex lens will compress the object behind the object into a thin strip, and enough lenses break the object into an infinite number of identical thin strips, giving people a kind of illusion of invisibility.
"In addition, refractive index can also be used to 'invisibility', for example, objects with high borosilicate glass materials can also be 'invisible' when moving in glycerol with a refractive index close to its own," Chu noted.
This is actually one of the principles of realizing the "invisible cloak", when the fabric of a garment and the air refractive index are the same, people can be freely "invisible" after wearing it, said the expert.
Chu further said that the current exploration of the forefront of "invisibility" cannot only avoid the naked eye, but also avoid infrared monitoring.
With the increasing diversification of modern detection means, for a single spectrum, such as visible light, infrared light, or for a single type of detector, such as radar, laser detection has long been unable to meet people's needs for "invisibility".
"The real 'perfect invisibility' requires that the above detection means can be avoided, and its essence is the low detectability of any electromagnetic wave,"Chu added.
The advent of "metamaterials" provides a new solution for the perfect invisibility of any electromagnetic wave. It is a man-made composite material that changes the conventional properties of light and electromagnetic waves by designing and reorganizing the fine structure of the material.
"In the future, with the gradual maturity of technology and 'metamaterials', the 'invisibility 'fantasy in science fiction works will gradually come to reality." Chu said that it is believed that there will be more "invisibility" equipment to change our lives in the future, such as invisible rooms with better privacy and invisible hearing aids.
"When I read Harry Potter as a child, I never thought that one day someone would be able to appear in front of me wearing such a cloak of invisibility, and now I look at the day may not be too far away,"one netizen said on Chinese social media platform Sina Weibo. If this technology does become widespread, won't it mean the cost of crime will fall? The law should also be improved to prevent similar situations from happening, said another.
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