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I don't think anyone is gonna be machining out a CPU anytime soon
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Huawei is improving cybersecurity in Kenya.
This is actually pretty important especially given how prone Kenya and other African nations are to election meddling and cyber operations. Depending on what systems are Huawei designed, it can be a huge step to cutting off US influence on that continent.
University of Waterloo , amid security concerns over China
Big news, UofWaterloo is the best CS and ML university in Canada. I'm guessing UofToronto will soon be next.
Exactly what I've been talking about. Hardware AI, IoT, has vastly more potential. China will absolutely dominate this field, it is their unique advantage.
Getting Russian physicists and mathematicians to help shape the future of AI is a brilliant move, putting to use a lot of pure theoretical talent that China may lack. Russian mathematicians are world-class with a long academic heritage, their imaginative ways of looking at math will help China develop more innovative AI models. Somehow, Huawei has put the academic strengths of the two countries (theory and practical use) together perfectly. I hope we see an enormous collaborations boom.
A detailed sample of his thinking came February 24 when Ren Zhengfei students in a forum at the Shanghai Jiaotong University’s Advanced Industrial Technology Research Institute.
On the same occasion, Ren said the company will set up a cloud-based system-simulation laboratory in Russia’s Saint Petersburg and connect it with its in Guizhou. He said Chinese academics will be provided free computing resources to do their experiments.
Q (Student): What’s your view about the development of AI chatbots?
A (Ren Zhengfei): In the future, the direct contribution of AI platforms to human society may be less than 2% while 98% will serve the industrial and agricultural society. And AI services also rely on 5G technology.
The reason why Germany is so supportive of Huawei’s 5G is because it wants to upgrade its industry with AI.
In China, a plant of Xiangtan Iron and Steel Group has unmanned processes from steelmaking to rolling. Tianjin Port has also achieved unmanned loading and unloading of goods. With 5G+ AI technology, a coal mine in Shanxi province reduced the number of its underground workers by 60-70%. Most staff are now wearing suits in the control room.
We will pay attention to the AI applications that serve the industrial and agricultural society. But we will only develop the underlying computing platform, not the applications.
Q (Student): What’s your view about the development of AI chatbots?
A (Ren Zhengfei): In the future, the direct contribution of AI platforms to human society may be less than 2% while 98% will serve the industrial and agricultural society. And AI services also rely on 5G technology.
The reason why Germany is so supportive of Huawei’s 5G is because it wants to upgrade its industry with AI.
In China, a plant of Xiangtan Iron and Steel Group has unmanned processes from steelmaking to rolling. Tianjin Port has also achieved unmanned loading and unloading of goods. With 5G+ AI technology, a coal mine in Shanxi province reduced the number of its underground workers by 60-70%. Most staff are now wearing suits in the control room.
We will pay attention to the AI applications that serve the industrial and agricultural society. But we will only develop the underlying computing platform, not the applications.
Q: The use of commercial databases in experiments may have privacy issues. What’s your view?
A: We have a project that targets management of tens of millions of servers with a single operating system. I’ve allowed the project’s team members, mostly young people, to brainstorm and explore. They have now made a system that can manage hundreds of thousands of servers.
Our algorithms aim at reducing the frictions of high data traffic. We only provide a “black soil” underlying platform and do not develop apps for customers, who owe the data and have the ability to understand it.
In the future, we will start some projects unrelated to Huawei’s businesses, just like what Google is doing. But right now, we do not have the money. When we have more profit, we will contribute more to scientific research.
Q: A lot of mathematicians have recently joined Huawei. What’s the company’s plan?
A: In the future, mathematics will become increasingly important. AI is all about algorithms, which are mathematics.
We will set up a system simulation laboratory in Saint Petersburg. There are a lot of excellent mathematicians and physicists in the city.
The lab will be like a “digital wind tunnel” where we can have systems modeling, analysis, simulation, testing and optimization to accelerate our research and development.
We will also set up a mirror laboratory in our in Gui’an.
You (Chinese academics) can do experiments here across different topics, such as wireless, network, computing, digital energy, supply, manufacturing and materials.
When doing large-scale model experiments, you can simulate the scene, instead of using an actual scene of a customer (a commercial company). You can come and do your experiments, take away your achievements and publish them in your papers and books. You don’t need to acknowledge our staff as they have already been paid. We will read and digest your papers and try to commercialize your scientific achievements.
Getting Russian physicists and mathematicians to help shape the future of AI is a brilliant move, putting to use a lot of pure theoretical talent that China may lack. Russian mathematicians are world-class with a long academic heritage, their imaginative ways of looking at math will help China develop more innovative AI models. Somehow, Huawei has put the academic strengths of the two countries (theory and practical use) together perfectly. I hope we see an enormous collaborations boom.
Huawei AI targets
The founder and CEO of Huawei Technologies has been putting out the word that the company will focus on the industrial use of artificial intelligence (AI) technology in coming years, instead of following in the footsteps of Baidu and Alibaba and investing heavily in chatbots.A detailed sample of his thinking came February 24 when Ren Zhengfei students in a forum at the Shanghai Jiaotong University’s Advanced Industrial Technology Research Institute.
On the same occasion, Ren said the company will set up a cloud-based system-simulation laboratory in Russia’s Saint Petersburg and connect it with its in Guizhou. He said Chinese academics will be provided free computing resources to do their experiments.
Q (Student): What’s your view about the development of AI chatbots?
A (Ren Zhengfei): In the future, the direct contribution of AI platforms to human society may be less than 2% while 98% will serve the industrial and agricultural society. And AI services also rely on 5G technology.
The reason why Germany is so supportive of Huawei’s 5G is because it wants to upgrade its industry with AI.
In China, a plant of Xiangtan Iron and Steel Group has unmanned processes from steelmaking to rolling. Tianjin Port has also achieved unmanned loading and unloading of goods. With 5G+ AI technology, a coal mine in Shanxi province reduced the number of its underground workers by 60-70%. Most staff are now wearing suits in the control room.
We will pay attention to the AI applications that serve the industrial and agricultural society. But we will only develop the underlying computing platform, not the applications.
Q (Student): What’s your view about the development of AI chatbots?
A (Ren Zhengfei): In the future, the direct contribution of AI platforms to human society may be less than 2% while 98% will serve the industrial and agricultural society. And AI services also rely on 5G technology.
The reason why Germany is so supportive of Huawei’s 5G is because it wants to upgrade its industry with AI.
In China, a plant of Xiangtan Iron and Steel Group has unmanned processes from steelmaking to rolling. Tianjin Port has also achieved unmanned loading and unloading of goods. With 5G+ AI technology, a coal mine in Shanxi province reduced the number of its underground workers by 60-70%. Most staff are now wearing suits in the control room.
We will pay attention to the AI applications that serve the industrial and agricultural society. But we will only develop the underlying computing platform, not the applications.
Q: The use of commercial databases in experiments may have privacy issues. What’s your view?
A: We have a project that targets management of tens of millions of servers with a single operating system. I’ve allowed the project’s team members, mostly young people, to brainstorm and explore. They have now made a system that can manage hundreds of thousands of servers.
Our algorithms aim at reducing the frictions of high data traffic. We only provide a “black soil” underlying platform and do not develop apps for customers, who owe the data and have the ability to understand it.
In the future, we will start some projects unrelated to Huawei’s businesses, just like what Google is doing. But right now, we do not have the money. When we have more profit, we will contribute more to scientific research.
Q: A lot of mathematicians have recently joined Huawei. What’s the company’s plan?
A: In the future, mathematics will become increasingly important. AI is all about algorithms, which are mathematics.
We will set up a system simulation laboratory in Saint Petersburg. There are a lot of excellent mathematicians and physicists in the city.
The lab will be like a “digital wind tunnel” where we can have systems modeling, analysis, simulation, testing and optimization to accelerate our research and development.
We will also set up a mirror laboratory in our in Gui’an.
You (Chinese academics) can do experiments here across different topics, such as wireless, network, computing, digital energy, supply, manufacturing and materials.
When doing large-scale model experiments, you can simulate the scene, instead of using an actual scene of a customer (a commercial company). You can come and do your experiments, take away your achievements and publish them in your papers and books. You don’t need to acknowledge our staff as they have already been paid. We will read and digest your papers and try to commercialize your scientific achievements.
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Wouldn't be so crass buddy, especially since this is afterall an overseas Chinese forum and perhaps some will know people or even have relatives who are in that situation just out of sheer bad luck rather than "liberalism," but still nonetheless commendably hustle and stay out of trouble unlike others who are in similar situations but turn to crime and violence.
Why would you think that China lacks theoretical talent or that Russian scientists are somehow better? China tops Nature index in physics, same for number of published math papers. China hosts 50 out of top 1000 mathematicians ranked by D-index (same as H-index but counts only discipline-relevant papers) - , there is 49 because Yao is incorrectly counted for the US. Plus Russia is far behind USA and China in AI research, I don't recall a single Russian paper as influential as ResNet for CV (China) and Transformer for NLP (USA), so if they could apply their talent there then we would see it by now.
Absolute majority of deep learning models for CV or NLP (two most relevant disciplines) don't even require graduate-level maths to understand them, including ground-breaking papers like Transformer, ResNet, etc. As long as you know matrix operations and basic mathematical analysis, you could probably cover like 98% of papers, lol.
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There is no such thing as having "enough" talent in a critical technology sector.
What matters is that there is a big talent pool and STEM tradition in Russia, a rarity in China's friends, due to the fact most of those friendly nations are from the Global South. It's normally hard to do a lot of research cooperation with Russia because their most valuable contributions are in military fields. But one of the most powerful uses of AI involve physics simulation / molecular design, and Russia has strong groups in mathematical physics in Moscow and St. Petersburg. Their help in AI molecular discovery will advance China's biotech and material science fields.
Mathematical physics, Mathematics and Physics in Russian universities are completely drained. Very few top researchers produced after the fall of the USSR. Mathematical physics is again a weird field now a days . With string theory hitting roadblocks. Very few theories after 1970s have been verified. Its over to engineers and experimental physicists to prove those results.
