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HumanHDMI

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Why are Indian scientists leaving though? Who's going to help develop the county's laudable goals of self-reliant if their best and brightest seeks better pastures outside the country rather than inside. This data confuses the people who have been inundated with India is soon to be X, Y, Z when they are face with actual data refuting the grand narrative of an ascending India in all fronts especially Science and Technology. I do honestly want India to succeed to avoid getting taking advantage of by the west if the country succumbs to it's hubris leading to failure and then looking for an outlet and escape goat which China will be blamed whether we like it or not. That's one of the negative in a political system that India has.
Can't blame the Indians. US tech jobs are the best jobs in the world period. 150k starting for like 4 hours of work a day. Even europeans emigrate for these jobs
 

tokenanalyst

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Who would have known that treating a group of people like trash makes them want to leave your house? But what I do know? I am not the expert in "muh national security"


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I mean you know that a policy is a disaster when establishment hawks stooges from foreign policy call it a disaster.

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taxiya

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Yes but specifically AI doctorates?
Partially could be because these US educated AI doctorates can not get a job in China? China's job market hyper-competitive today, a bachelor may likely become jobless after graduation, you hear bachelors become delivery boys. Masters are equal to the bachelor in the past while doctors reduced to the status of master. AI is a specially hot battle ground, so I suspect the competition is hotest. It is like Chinese table tennis players going abroad to have a chance to compete in Olympics.
 

horse

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Yes but specifically AI doctorates?

Is there such a thing? LOL!

I do not believe there is such a thing.

AI programming has some specific programming language IIRC reading about it somewhere. In other words, AI does not seemed to be programmed in C, or C++, or Javascript, or Fortran, and stuff like that.

AI seems to have its own programming language.
 

taxiya

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Is there such a thing? LOL!

I do not believe there is such a thing.
Yes and no, AI is a special branch of computing science, so one can be simply a Ph.D in computer science, or can be styled as Ph.D in AI. IMO it is just bragging.

AI programming has some specific programming language IIRC reading about it somewhere. In other words, AI does not seemed to be programmed in C, or C++, or Javascript, or Fortran, and stuff like that.

AI seems to have its own programming language.
No, AI can be programmed in any existing language or any newly invented language. I have practiced Python based AI programming. Many languages have developed their AI libraries.

AI is a glorified programming. At the very base it is not different from logic circuit controlling your wash machine which does "if A > B then do C". The difference is that in AI library it does "If A is 80% of B then do C, Store the decision and 80% as threshold. Examine if C leads to failure then reduce threshold to 75%." The program just keeps trying and looping through new input values of A, in the mean time adjusting the threshold variable stored in memory. This is called machine learning, or building knowledge and experience. So the logic is still "if then else" as the conventional program. The only "new" thing is the automatic adjusting of variables according to past input. It looks like it is learning, but it is not different from existing self adjusting algorithms such as auto exposure computing in the decades old Canon/Nikon cameras. AI just makes that learning loop much longer over hundreds or thousands circles instead of just a few. AI also vastly increased the number of variables to learn. While so-called conventional programming has very few variables to learn and few circles to learn.

Seriously AI is just marketing trick or bragging right for AI code-farmer.
 
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horse

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No, AI can be programmed in any existing language or any newly invented language. I have practiced Python based AI programming. Many languages have developed their AI libraries.

Okay thanks. I remember that AI programming language started with the letter p or a ph, but I could not remember what that name of that language was, that I read in a an article a while ago. You read my mind, heh!

Guess things have changed. Maybe Fortran may not have current AI libraries, but seems like every other language does now.

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FairAndUnbiased

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Can't blame the Indians. US tech jobs are the best jobs in the world period. 150k starting for like 4 hours of work a day. Even europeans emigrate for these jobs
conditions:

1. have to be white male, East/Southeast Asian female or Indian
2. have to graduate from top tier schools
3. have to be able to take ludicrous amounts of humiliation from ****s with 欠揍的脸
 

tacoburger

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Is there anyone else in China who is working on humanoid robots?
There is Xiaomi, but this is like looking at robotic video from 10 years ago.

And while we're on the subject of robotics, one area that will probably be on the same level as importance as A.I and semiconductors in the future will be robotic hands. I believe that China needs to either investing large amounts of money into a private company to develop one or get a SOE to do so. There's serious money pouring in on humanoid robots, but there's not a lot of serious development going into their hands. Most of their development is probably spillover from prosthetic hand, which are not very good, they're not much more functional than a prosthetic hook
 
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