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antiterror13

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A critical aspect of China-US competition will be STEM talent. I don't think most people - including most Americans - understand just how dependent the US is on foreign talent to fuel its tech ecosystem.View attachment 95669

China has surpassed the US in STEM graduates years ago - and the gap is growing.

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International co-operation is good for China, but losing talent isn't. The good news is that fewer Chinese top students go abroad (and even among those who go, many come back), this will be a major problem for the US going forward. China should make studying abroad harder, especially as Chinese universities are becoming better and better.

Just look at how Tsinghua and PKU have improved in the past few years.

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This trend of improvement is similar for other Chinese universities. It should help alleviate emigration pressure of the brightest talents.

Thats from QS which measure overall performance of universities, for science and technology, actually Peking and Tsinghua Uni are in the top 5
 

Weaasel

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China's equivalent of the United States' Federally Funded Research and Development Centres

I have recently been research on Federal Laboratories of the United States and the basic and applied STEM and Industrial research that they do, and while I knew that NASA and the United States Department of Energy, as well as various service branches of the Department of Defence had a number of different STEM R & D centres and labs with different sets of highly sophisticated equipment filled facilities, it is only in recent days that I have actually come to realize the scope and scale of the facilities that these different Federal and federal affiliated agencies and institutions possess. The R & D facilities of the Departments of Energy, Defence, and of NASA are indeed the lynchpin of American modern technological and industrial progress since the early 20th century and continue to be vitally important. What are China's equivalent of such agencies and institutions?
 

mossen

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I'd be extra careful at quoting any Western based institutions' rankings
It's ironic that the most famous Chinese ranking (AWRU) doesn't have a single Chinese university in the top 25! Seems like a case of excessive self-depreciation.

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The closest ranking to scientific quality is Nature Index
Agreed, though it does also have some limitations, such as not adjusting for size of the institution.
 

GodRektsNoobs

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It's ironic that the most famous Chinese ranking (AWRU) doesn't have a single Chinese university in the top 25!

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Well, let's just hope that US policy makers and elites look at ARWU solely instead of any other rankings.

US universities best in world. Every other university is fake news! The Chinese said so! Don't take it from me, ask the Chinese! Their tremendous list (the best list, believe me!) says that all top 15 universities on Earth are American! Can you believe that? Even 2 from our colony across the Atlantic! Great job Boris. I love you, I love you all!

MAGA!!!!!!
 
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Wuhun

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China's equivalent of the United States' Federally Funded Research and Development Centres

I have recently been research on Federal Laboratories of the United States and the basic and applied STEM and Industrial research that they do, and while I knew that NASA and the United States Department of Energy, as well as various service branches of the Department of Defence had a number of different STEM R & D centres and labs with different sets of highly sophisticated equipment filled facilities, it is only in recent days that I have actually come to realize the scope and scale of the facilities that these different Federal and federal affiliated agencies and institutions possess. The R & D facilities of the Departments of Energy, Defence, and of NASA are indeed the lynchpin of American modern technological and industrial progress since the early 20th century and continue to be vitally important. What are China's equivalent of such agencies and institutions?

Why do you ask questions whose answer you can find from a google search? You seem to have egregious tendency, as @ZeEa5KPul also pointed out in the semiconductor thread. Nonetheless, all American national labs combined falls short of Chinese Academy of Sciences -

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Remember that all American r&d are published in english, while substantial faction of frontier r&d in China are published in Chinese including
  • China National Space Agency [see the absence]
  • Purple Mountain Lab [World leader in 6G]
  • Peng Cheng Lab [AI cluster compute -
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  • National Institute of Metrology [Quantum]
 

Weaasel

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Why do you ask questions whose answer you can find from a google search? You seem to have egregious tendency, as @ZeEa5KPul also pointed out in the semiconductor thread. Nonetheless, all American national labs combined falls short of Chinese Academy of Sciences -

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Remember that all American r&d are published in english, while substantial faction of frontier r&d in China are published in Chinese including
  • China National Space Agency [see the absence]
  • Purple Mountain Lab [World leader in 6G]
  • Peng Cheng Lab [AI cluster compute -
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    ]
  • National Institute of Metrology [Quantum]
Thanks for the list of Chinese Institutions, a clear and comprehensive listing of them wasn't so easy to find on the www. As far as the US listing that you gave, if you are calling me egregious for asking it for it, as much as I appreciate your provision of the Chinese listing, I did not ask for the US listing and it should be clear from my intro that I actually know of many or most of them quite well...
 

Rettam Stacf

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China's United Imaging debuts on Monday after biggest STAR Market IPO this year​

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Shanghai United Imaging Healthcare Co will start public trading next Monday, the company said, after raising roughly $1.6 billion in the biggest initial public offering (IPO) on Shanghai's tech-focused STAR Market so far this year.

The Chinese producer of CT scan and X-ray devices raised 10.99 billion yuan ($1.62 billion) in an IPO this month that was more than 3,500 times oversubscribed among retail investors.

United Imaging, which competes with GE Healthcare, Siemens Healthcare and Philips Healthcare, benefited from coronavirus outbreaks in China, which boosted demand for scanning and imaging devices.

US led tech war on China helps high tech companies like United Imaging to achieve record after record in IPO within China.

While there is little likelihood that CT scan and X-ray devices for health care are high on the list of high tech products being considered for embargo by the US, just the possibility helps products of United Imaging to become the preferred choice within China, hence the high valuation at IPO.

Such high valuation will attract other Chinese entrepreneurs to create high tech companies whose products are currently dominated by foreign imports, further enhancing China's tech independence.
 
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