New Type98/99 MBT thread

[challenge]

This is a French Leclerc MBT

could it be for technical demonstration only? during the early 90's PLAAF actually lease some PAF F-16 for technical evaluation.

 

[HKSDU]

could it be for technical demonstration only? during the early 90's PLAAF actually lease some PAF F-16 for technical evaluation.

no they are using other tank in the video has references of other nations MBT. When you see other nations equipment it doesn't necessarily mean its related to China, only that they are trying to make a point.

 

[maozedong]

this is type 99G(2A?) released from the latest chinese magazine.

 

[plawolf]

Doesn't look all that different from the A1, they just cleared the turret top a little and maybe tweaked the ERA. The laser jammer seemed to have been replaced.

Overall, just superficial chances. This is not the new generation tank we have seen pictures of before.

 

[Pointblank]

They also tend to be very heavy, all in the 60+ ton range. It looks like the Type 99A2 is getting close to 60 tons as well. This tank looks so different from the A1 version that it really should have a new name.

In many cases, heavy is good, especially for a tank. Combat experience has demonstrated that protection should be among your top 2 priorities in a armoured fighting vehicle.

 

[dingyibvs]

In many cases, heavy is good, especially for a tank. Combat experience has demonstrated that protection should be among your top 2 priorities in a armoured fighting vehicle.

Depends on the terrain, the most likely terrain for China to use its armor is in the mountainous Korea, the jungles of Vietnam, and the cliffs of the Himalayas, none of which favors behemoth tanks. Of course, there are still regions in each of those three areas where heavy tanks are useful, so it's still useful to develop them.

 

[Pointblank]

Depends on the terrain, the most likely terrain for China to use its armor is in the mountainous Korea, the jungles of Vietnam, and the cliffs of the Himalayas, none of which favors behemoth tanks. Of course, there are still regions in each of those three areas where heavy tanks are useful, so it's still useful to develop them.

Afghanistan was not considered to be tank country as well, and the Leopard 2's that are in theatre (plus the US Marine M1 Abrams arriving in theatre) are doing quite well.

I would also add that considering Korea to not be tank country was proven wrong in the Korean War; tanks did very well in Korea.

No one is expecting the Cold War Fulda Gap scenario again, but the more armour you got in today's battlefield, the better off you are. It just means that the opponent needs to bring bigger weapons to the party, which are more detectable and easier to defeat.

 

[dingyibvs]

Afghanistan was not considered to be tank country as well, and the Leopard 2's that are in theatre (plus the US Marine M1 Abrams arriving in theatre) are doing quite well.

I would also add that considering Korea to not be tank country was proven wrong in the Korean War; tanks did very well in Korea.

No one is expecting the Cold War Fulda Gap scenario again, but the more armour you got in today's battlefield, the better off you are. It just means that the opponent needs to bring bigger weapons to the party, which are more detectable and easier to defeat.

I read a couple of books on the Korean War quite a few years ago, and based on what I gathered, tanks were not terribly effective in Korea. Much of the time they were turned into mobile artillery units since they couldn't navigate through the harsh terrains to provide armor for the infantry. As I noted, there are parts of Korea that heavy armor is effective, but it's no Iraq.

As for Afghanistan, there are parts of that country where the allied troops simply won't enter without MRAPs. Like Korea, there are parts where heavy armor is effective, but much of the country is unfavorable for their operations. Also, the allied troops have it easier than the Soviets did, as nobody is supplying the resistance fighters with advanced weaponry. That won't be the case with Korea for either side.

 

[challenge]

I think that's the uparmored ZDB-07 IFV.

new photo top81.com.cn,claim it was a SP 120m mortal.
judging from the picture,the gun turrent are modular design,120mm gun mortal can be interchange with 23mm,25mm or even 35mm rapid firing gun.

 

[IronsightSniper]

Alright, where in this thread would be the Armor estimates and Ammunition estimates? :O