"new" SMG with chinese armed police with pictures!
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Chengdu J-10
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The military version of the JS submachine gun is not chambered for 9 x 19mm rounds it chambered for 5.8 x 21mm rounds, and correctly the submachine gun is called QCW05 or Type 05. The Type 05 is a blowback operated while the ARC95 is short stroke gas piston and a rotating bolt operated firing the 5.8 x 42mm rounds. So the Type 05 is not a minaturized version of the ARC95 firing different rounds its internal operating mechanism are different to one another.
The 5.8x21 is designed as a armour piercing pistol/SMG round similar to the FN 5.7. You simply can't feed standard rifle round like the 5.8x42 into any normal sized pistols.
zaky
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That is what I am talking about. In a full war time scenario, when everything is going wrong, a conscript who was put to load the tracks with amo, how will make the difference between pistol end rifle cartages.
What do you do when you fight with QBZ95 and instead of 5.8 x 42mm amo you get 5.8 x 21mm one?
What do you do when you fight with QBZ95 and instead of 5.8 x 42mm amo you get 5.8 x 21mm one?
Well there really isen't any difficoulties to determine wheter some cartridge is eith rifle or pistol ammunition. You need to be quite a looney to not be able to tell the difference. For example the 42 in 5.8x42 calibre means the lenght of the shell casing 4,2 cm where as the pistol ammunition is 2,1 cm of lenght. Any normal people can tell the difference between 2 and 4 cm...
zaky
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I know this.
But in the case when on the box only 5.8 mm is mentioned.
In the situation when you receive the request by radio and who give the order talk about only 5.8 mm (full of back noise, jamming, everybody nervous etc.) and who load the track is a common conscript who newer read military materials (because he is a drama student
).
The same caliber could be a problem.
But in the case when on the box only 5.8 mm is mentioned.
In the situation when you receive the request by radio and who give the order talk about only 5.8 mm (full of back noise, jamming, everybody nervous etc.) and who load the track is a common conscript who newer read military materials (because he is a drama student
).The same caliber could be a problem.
Even conscripts are teached some basics you know
As the high command is aware of the simialr calibre, I'm sure they have given specific guides how to describe each ammunition in radio (the radio-displine is normal practice in all armies, you just don't go and shout anything what comes to your mind, there are strickt guides of how to behaive)
China have used decades now 7,62x39, 7,62x53R and the pistol calibre 7,62x25...I'm pretty sure they can manage with the new calibres as well...
As the high command is aware of the simialr calibre, I'm sure they have given specific guides how to describe each ammunition in radio (the radio-displine is normal practice in all armies, you just don't go and shout anything what comes to your mind, there are strickt guides of how to behaive)
China have used decades now 7,62x39, 7,62x53R and the pistol calibre 7,62x25...I'm pretty sure they can manage with the new calibres as well...
One of my aunts used to work in an ammunation factory before she retired. I remember at least a few years ago, the prints on the ammo box would say "7.62mm Rifle Cartrige" or "7.62mm Handgun Cartrige" and even as a kid without any military training. I do know the difference.