New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

tphuang

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From your article:


This is not true. Vehicles need to get approvals from the government to be allowed on the street, just like in the US.

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If your vehicle was not manufactured for sale in the U.S., it’s unlikely that it will be certified for use in Canada. Most vehicles manufactured for sale in countries other than the United States cannot be imported into Canada because they do not comply with the Motor Vehicle Safety Act requirements.
Btw, my commentary there is not about compliance with local law, since every country has their own and byd deals with them as needed. It’s not any different than the work they did to get vehicles compliant with Australian laws.

my commentary was about lack of tariffs for cars manufactured in Mexico. While America maybe able to bully Mexico, Canada is quite a different story.
 

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Btw, my commentary there is not about compliance with local law, since every country has their own and byd deals with them as needed. It’s not any different than the work they did to get vehicles compliant with Australian laws.

my commentary was about lack of tariffs for cars manufactured in Mexico. While America maybe able to bully Mexico, Canada is quite a different story.
Canadian government has gone full retard on Chinese EVs. They can block Chinese EVs imports regardless where they are made simply by refusing to issue licenses to them. There are no Chinese EV available in Canada right now for a reason.

The government is thinking even blocking Chinese EV plants

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  • Investment: Chinese companies could seek to establish facilities to manufacture EVs within Canada (e.g., to access the North American market in light of potential tariff measures). The Investment Canada Act requires prior approval of significant foreign investments for likely economic net benefit. Also, all foreign investment is subject to national security review regardless of value, including new project investments and non-controlling minority investments. The Government of Canada has also provided additional
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    clarity about how the Investment Canada Act will be applied to investments in Canadian entities and assets in Critical Minerals sectors from foreign state-owned enterprises.
    Issue for consultation: Please provide views on whether additional actions like further policy guidance, monitoring, or restrictions related to transactions and investment from Chinese sources in the Canadian EV supply chain are required or would be desirable to safeguard net-benefits to Canadians and Canadian national security.
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    • Reasons for the expressed support for, or concern with, greater scrutiny or restrictions of relevant transactions, including detailed information substantiating any expected impact
 

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Canadian government has gone full retard on Chinese EVs. They can block Chinese EVs imports regardless where they are made simply by refusing to issue licenses to them. There are no Chinese EV available in Canada right now for a reason.

The government is thinking even blocking Chinese EV plants

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  • Investment: Chinese companies could seek to establish facilities to manufacture EVs within Canada (e.g., to access the North American market in light of potential tariff measures). The Investment Canada Act requires prior approval of significant foreign investments for likely economic net benefit. Also, all foreign investment is subject to national security review regardless of value, including new project investments and non-controlling minority investments. The Government of Canada has also provided additional
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    clarity about how the Investment Canada Act will be applied to investments in Canadian entities and assets in Critical Minerals sectors from foreign state-owned enterprises.
    Issue for consultation: Please provide views on whether additional actions like further policy guidance, monitoring, or restrictions related to transactions and investment from Chinese sources in the Canadian EV supply chain are required or would be desirable to safeguard net-benefits to Canadians and Canadian national security.
    In providing input, please include:
    • Reasons for the expressed support for, or concern with, greater scrutiny or restrictions of relevant transactions, including detailed information substantiating any expected impact
That's interesting given the recent Canadian visit to meet Wang Yi.
 

tphuang

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Canadian government has gone full retard on Chinese EVs. They can block Chinese EVs imports regardless where they are made simply by refusing to issue licenses to them. There are no Chinese EV available in Canada right now for a reason.

The government is thinking even blocking Chinese EV plants

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  • Investment: Chinese companies could seek to establish facilities to manufacture EVs within Canada (e.g., to access the North American market in light of potential tariff measures). The Investment Canada Act requires prior approval of significant foreign investments for likely economic net benefit. Also, all foreign investment is subject to national security review regardless of value, including new project investments and non-controlling minority investments. The Government of Canada has also provided additional
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    clarity about how the Investment Canada Act will be applied to investments in Canadian entities and assets in Critical Minerals sectors from foreign state-owned enterprises.
    Issue for consultation: Please provide views on whether additional actions like further policy guidance, monitoring, or restrictions related to transactions and investment from Chinese sources in the Canadian EV supply chain are required or would be desirable to safeguard net-benefits to Canadians and Canadian national security.
    In providing input, please include:
    • Reasons for the expressed support for, or concern with, greater scrutiny or restrictions of relevant transactions, including detailed information substantiating any expected impact
Well, BYD seems to think it can get into the Canadian market. The thing is that there are discussions in countries like Canada about issues like this. We will see if BYD do enter Canada or not, but I think they are likely to do so. And if you think they won't, that's fine too.

Again, my point was strictly about tariffs in production from Mexico plant vs China plant. I don't know why you decided to turn this into a diatribe about Canada.
 

vincent

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Well, BYD seems to think it can get into the Canadian market. The thing is that there are discussions in countries like Canada about issues like this. We will see if BYD do enter Canada or not, but I think they are likely to do so. And if you think they won't, that's fine too.

Again, my point was strictly about tariffs in production from Mexico plant vs China plant. I don't know why you decided to turn this into a diatribe about Canada.
Just want to point out just because the vehicles are manufactured in Mexico doesn't mean they can be imported into Canada.
 

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henrik

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Well, BYD seems to think it can get into the Canadian market. The thing is that there are discussions in countries like Canada about issues like this. We will see if BYD do enter Canada or not, but I think they are likely to do so. And if you think they won't, that's fine too.

Again, my point was strictly about tariffs in production from Mexico plant vs China plant. I don't know why you decided to turn this into a diatribe about Canada.

Canada has now become a follower of US policies, even if it is to its own detriment. For example, the capture of the Huawei executive, and banning of 5G equipment. Right wing parties, which think they are trump, are now putting pressure on the present government.
 

tphuang

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Canada has now become a follower of US policies, even if it is to its own detriment. For example, the capture of the Huawei executive, and banning of 5G equipment. Right wing parties, which think they are trump, are now putting pressure on the present government.
lol, except Trump already said he'd welcome Chinese automakers to build factories in America.

Now, I must say that BYD will not enter US PV market anytime soon.

Keep in mind that Canada is not US. BYD is already in the rest of 5-eye nations as well as Japan and India.

As for your commentary about Canadian political system, you are quite off. And I'd suggest that you not go off topic.
 
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